Yoshi-P's latest post on the JP server.

[Tuckerr]

Hey everyone. Thought I'd share some stuff I found digging around Yoshi-P's forum posts. Hope you enjoy.

プロデューサー兼ディレクターの吉田です。

パッチ2.38で解放される個人宅の土地購入価格について、多数のご意見ありがとうございます。

今回パッチ2.38での購入価格決定について「以前に言っていたFCハウスの土地購入価格よりも、
安くしたいと思っている」という吉田の発言と、現状実装価格の想定が異なる、
というお声をいただいていることについて、経緯をご説明します。

■吉田の発言について■

吉田がこの発言をしたのはこちらのポストにある通り、昨年の12月になります。
http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...40#post1684940
当時、パッチ2.1でのFCハウスの価格はレガシープレイヤーとの経済格差を是正し、
できるだけ早くワールド移転を実施するため、FCハウスの土地購入価格を高く設定していました。
そのため「個人宅の構想もあるみたいだけど、こんな高額なギルは払えない」という意見も多くいただき、
このポストの中で「今回公開となったフリーカンパニーの本拠地としてのハウジングとは価格を別に」、
「もっと安く」と記載させていただきました。

ポストの後半にある個人ハウスシステムの内容主旨としましては……

• 現時点（パッチ2.1）のFC土地価格とは全く別になります
• 現時点（パッチ2.1）よりはるかに安くします

という部分になります。

しかし、改めて自身で読み返してみると、「」の括り位置など、非常にわかりにくく、
また当時「とにかく高い」「個人宅もこの金額になるのでは？」というご不安を解消するために、
焦って記述したこともあり、皆さんにご迷惑をおかけしてしまったと反省しております。
この点、ご容赦くださいますと幸いに思います。

■個人宅の土地購入価格の決定経緯■

前提としてパッチ2.1以降、全ワールドの土地販売状況をモニターしながら、
土地の購入価格は段階的に大幅な値下げを実施させていただきました。
また、パッチ2.3では土地価格の下落速度も、最安値に到達する期間を当初3か月だったものから、
1か月という短期間で最安値に到達するよう短縮させていただきました。
これにより、土地価格は6時間毎に数万ギルずつ値下がりし、1か月後に初期価格の半額になります。

また、パッチ2.1以降、ゲーム内の経済を活性化させるため、ギルの入手手段を格段に増やし、
全プレイヤーの皆さんの平均所持ギル量も数倍になっています。
常にこの皆さんの所持ギルを確認させていただいた上で、パッチ2.3投入時の土地価格が、
今回の個人宅公開時の価格においても妥当である、と判断を行いました。

どうしても土地購入価格開始時の値段に注目が集まりますが、1か月で価格は半額になります。
皆さんの平均所持ギル量は、皆さんが想像されている以上に増えており、
個人用に土地を購入する価格をこれ以上下げることは、別キャラクターでの土地占有問題や、
RMT業者の流入を容易くしてしまうことも懸念しています。

また、個人宅の機能についても「栽培」「チョコボ厩舎」を個人でもご使用になりたい、
というフィードバックをできるだけすべて対応させていただくために、
FCハウスと機能同一化を目指し開発を行ってきました。

今回価格を設定する際に、FCで土地を購入する際の価格と、個人で土地を購入する際の価格差を
多少なりともつけるべきか、検討しなかったわけではありませんが、現状の経済状況と、
今後の拡張性を鑑みて、同一の価格設定となっております。ご了承ください。

■FCハウスと個人宅のハウジングゾーンが同一である理由について■

最大のポイントは土地の有効活用になります。FFXIVは運営安定期になり、新設されるFCの数は、
緩やかに減り、それに伴い新規FCハウスの需要も下降線となります。
また、土地の売却仕様などの拡張により、土地需要が満たされたあとは、
徐々にではありますが、区画内に空き土地が発生するようにもなります。

一方個人宅は、皆さんの所持ギル量は常に増え続けることにより、時間が経つにつれ、
個人宅の需要が増え、土地の空きが多く必要とされることになります。

FCのハウジングエリアと個人宅のハウジングエリアを分けたとして、FCの土地が空いている場合
「空いてるFCの土地があるなら、そちらに個人宅を建てたい！」というご要望が、
今後出てくることは確実と思いますし、この両者のバランスを合致させるために、
同一区画内で自由に土地が買えるという仕様にし、土地の効率的な活用ができることを想定しています。

■まとめ■

ハウジングシステム関連は、必要になるギルの高額さや、FCで遊ぶか、個人で遊ぶかなど、
多くの要素が絡み、実装コストや需要の配分も複雑になるため、我々開発の判断内容と、
プレイヤーの皆さん全員の思惑が、どうしても一致しない面が出てしまうことと思います。

ですが、パッチ2.1以降そうであったように、これからもお時間はいただくことになりますが、
きちんと皆さんの需要やフィードバックにお応えしていくつもりでおりますので、
引き続き、よろしくお願いいたします。

Google Translate:
For land purchase price of FFXIV private home

It is Yoshida producer and director.

For land purchase price of the private home to be released in patch 2.38, opinions Thank you for many.

Than the land purchase price of FC House had to say in the "previously for the purchase price determined in patch 2.38 this time,
And remarks Yoshida and that "he wanted to cheaper, assuming the current implementation price is different,
For that you have received the day that voice, we will explain the circumstances.

■ remarks Yoshida ■

Street in the post here, Yoshida did this remark it will be in December of last year.
http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...40#post1684940
At the time, the price of FC house in Patch 2.1 to correct the economic gap with legacy player,
Order to implement as soon as possible relocation world, it had set a high land purchase price of FC House.
We also many opinion "it seems there is also a concept of private home, but I can not afford this expensive too" and therefore,
"Apart from the price of the housing as the home of free company that became public this time" in this post,
We have described as "cheaper".

The ...... Toshimashite content gist of the individual house system in the second half of the post

It is quite apart from the FC land price of the moment (patch 2.1)
I will much cheaper than (patch 2.1) currently

I will be part of.

However, when I read back on its own again, and such as the location of the enclosed "", is very confusing,
In addition, in order to eliminate your anxiety "high anyway", "private home also? Than be in this amount" and at that time,
We regret sometimes you have written too soon, and had the inconvenience to you.
In this respect, I think the hope you please pardon.

■ determine the history of the land purchase price of private home ■

Patch 2.1 or later, while monitoring the land sale status of all world assumption,
Purchase price of the land we have carried out a significant price cut in stages.
In addition, the decline rate of the land price, from what was originally a three months period to reach the lowest in patch 2.3,
I was allowed to shorten to reach the lowest price in the short period of one month.
As a result, land prices have fallen by several tens of thousand gil every six hours, it will be half of the initial price after one month.

Furthermore, since the patch 2.1, and activates the game economy, increase dramatically Means Gill,
The average amount of possession Gill everyone of all players also has become several times.
On and we will confirm your possession of this Gil everyone always, land prices up 2.3 patch,
I made ​​a decision, and is valid also in the price of private home at the time of its publication this time.

Attention will gather in the price of land purchase price at the start anyway, but the price will be half price in the month.
The average amount of possession Gill everyone, has increased to more than you have imagined,
Lowering more the price to buy the land to personal use, and land occupancy problem with another character,
We are also concerned that it would be easily the influx of RMT skilled in the art.

Also, I would like to use in personal "cultivation" and "Chocobo stables" is also for the function of the private home,
In order to be allowed to correspond as much as possible all the feedback that,
It has been developing aims to function identification and FC House.

When you set the price this time, the price of purchasing the land in FC, the price difference when buying the land in private
Should put more or less, it does not mean were not examined, but I and the current economic situation,
In view of the expansion in the future, making it the pricing of the same. Please understand.

■ about why housing zone of private home and FC House is the same ■

Point of maximum is the effective use of land. FFXIV becomes the operation stable period, the number of FC to be newly established,
The gradual decrease in the demand for new FC House will also be descending line along with it.
In addition, after the extension of the specification, including the sale of land, land demand is satisfied,
Although it is a gradual, but it is free land, even to occur in the compartment.

On the other hand, private home, by possession Gill amount of you always continue to increase, over time,
It means that the demand for private home increases, free of land is needed most.

If as divided the housing area of private homes and housing area of FC, FC land is vacant
Is a demand, "If there is a land of FC vacant, it is! Want to build a private home in there" and,
I think that it comes out the future with certainty, and in order to match the balance of the two,
It is assumed that it is the specification that can buy land freely in the same compartment, efficient use of land can be.

■ Summary ■

The housing system-related, and expensive of Gil needed, you can either play with FC, etc. or play in the individual,
Because many factors entangled, allocation of demand and implementation cost is complicated, and the contents of the judgment our development,
I think that the face of speculation that all of you the player does not match is absolutely will come out.

But, as was the case patch 2.1 or later, you will be asked is your time in the future,
Since we are going to continue to meet the demand and feedback of you properly,
Continue, thank you.

Thoughts and comments everyone?

[ZodiacSoldier]

Hello,

The following is a comment from Producer and Director Naoki Yoshida.

Naoki_Yoshida's Avatar
Quote Originally Posted by Naoki_Yoshida View Post
Hello, everyone. Producer and Director Yoshida here.

Thank you for all the large amount of feedback regarding the prices of land for personal housing which was implemented in Patch 2.38.

As the current personal housing prices are higher than what players expected, I would like to discuss the statement I made previously regarding the plan to make the personal housing prices cheaper than Free Company housing.

■Regarding what I said■
The statement I said was from a post made last December.
http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...=1#post1685344
At that time, we were correcting the economic disparity between legacy players and new players with regards to Free Company land prices in Patch 2.1. As we were hoping to implement World Transfers as quickly as possible, we set Free Company plot prices on the high side. Due to this, we received a lot of feedback mentioning that even though there were plans for personal housing, there would be no way that players would be able to pay that high of a cost. In my reply, I wrote: “I can say that prices will be completely separate from Free Company housing, and, naturally, far more affordable.”

What this meant was the following:
The prices will be completely separate from Free Company land prices (At the time of Patch 2.1)
We’ll be making the prices much cheaper than what they are currently (At the time of Patch 2.1)

However, reading this again, I realize that this statement is extremely unclear. Also, because I wrote this quickly to try to quell the uneasiness at the time, I ended up causing even more problems for everyone. I sincerely apologize for this.
■How we decided on the prices for personal housing■
After Patch 2.1 we’d been monitoring the land purchase conditions on all Worlds and largely reducing the prices in stages. Additionally, the original time frame for reaching the lowest land price was three months, which we shortened to one month. Due to this, the prices of land drop several tens of thousands of gil every six hours. After one month the price would be half of what it was originally.

Additionally, in order to stimulate the in-game economy after Patch 2.1, we increased the methods in which you can obtain gil and the average amount of gil all players possess increased severalfold. We are constantly checking the amount of gil everyone possesses, and based on this we made the decision that the starting prices of personal housing should be the land prices at the time that Patch 2.3 was implemented.

Focus will always be on the prices at release, but after one month these prices will be halved. The average amount of gil in possession is much greater than you all imagine, and we are concerned that if we were to lower the cost of land for personal housing any further it would exacerbate problems like RMT and the purchase of land by secondary characters.

As we have also received requests to make it so you can garden and raise chocobos from personal houses, we strived to develop personal housing with the same core features as Free Company houses to address this feedback.

When setting the prices, it’s not as though we didn’t even consider whether we should separate the prices for Free Company land and personal housing land; however, looking at the current economic conditions and also considering future expansion we decided to make the prices the same. I apologize and hope for your understanding.
■The reason why Free Company houses and personal houses are in the same areas■
The biggest reason is to ensure the effective utilization of land. FFXIV is entering a stable period and the amount of newly created Free Companies is gently declining, therefore the demand for new Free Company houses will also decline. Additionally, with expansions to the land sale feature, after the demand for land has been fulfilled there will gradually be land openings in the wards.

On the other hand, when it comes to personal housing, with the constant increase in the amount of gil everyone possesses, as time passes the demand for personal housing will increase and a large amount of open land will be necessary.

If we were to separate Free Company housing and personal housing into different areas, in the event that Free Company land opens up I believe we would then receive requests asking to make it possible to build personal houses on those plots. So in order to balance the two we made it possible to purchase land in the same housing areas and feel this will allow for land to be utilized efficiently.
■In conclusion■
In regards to the housing system, there are a lot of elements that are intertwined with each other. For example, the hefty amount of gil required to purchase, or whether you play within a Free Company or by yourself, and also due to the fact that the implementation cost and the allocation of demands becomes more complex, there are times when the decisions made by the development team are not always in perfect alignment with the thoughts of the players.

However, similar to what we did after Patch 2.1, we will be doing our best to answer everyone’s feedback and demands, but we would like to ask for some time. Thank you very much.

An English Speaking SE member did a similar response.

[Doopis]

It's a little difficult to read this and understand it, but from I'm seeing is he's just making excuses for not actually implementing personal housing and ruining any chance for FCs to get a house now or in the future. Is that correct? The point about people wanting to make a personal house in a vacant FC lot if they were separate is just plain stupid. There is absolutely no reason why they should be in the same instance as each other. This is not "efficient use of land". This is a video game. There is no limit to the actual availability of land other than the restrictions they place upon it.

[Eye_Gore]

That reads like some assembly instruction manual I got from a cabinet that was made in China.

[Nyxia-Salix]

It reads horribly awkward because it was translated with google translate. Google is seriously lacking with the translating skill lol someone who actually knows Japanese needs to translate. I would but I'm on mobile lol

[Miyu20]

An English Speaking SE member did a similar response.

This post by Camate is actual plagiarism of most of our translation which xXRaineXx and I did at 4-6A.M. last night/morning. A little angry that we weren't even acknowledged but good to know that plagiarism is accepted now in business. [/sarcasm]

[Cassandaria]

It's a little difficult to read this and understand it, but from I'm seeing is he's just making excuses for not actually implementing personal housing and ruining any chance for FCs to get a house now or in the future. Is that correct? The point about people wanting to make a personal house in a vacant FC lot if they were separate is just plain stupid. There is absolutely no reason why they should be in the same instance as each other. This is not "efficient use of land". This is a video game. There is no limit to the actual availability of land other than the restrictions they place upon it.

While I agree with you that his reply his mostly excuses, I understand why the move was made as it was. I feel it was a mistake and one that will bite him in the end. However, efficient use of land, even in a video game IS important. You need to understand that your concept is that you can just create more virtual space and forget that each of these zones need space allocated to them on a server. That space now must be allocated to not just one group of people, but all of them, following that, if they add more, they may go over the limit they have for space on the current servers, causing world wide lag as well as other issues. Then the investment of millions of dollars to add more servers to allocate more space for us to do housing. It's not "unlimited" just because it's a game, it's actually pretty restrictive.