Abolish Gc vs GC vs GC in frontlines.

[Sessurea]

And simply make it 24 vs 24 vs 24. Gc vs GC vs GC might be fine on mass populated Legacy servers, but on Odin if you are in maelstrom you can expect 2 hour + queues.

The reasoning for gc vs gc vs gc was because it could be supported by lore this way, which is nice of course, but ultimately the most important thing to consider NOW, is that the BG thrives, and it certainly is not doing that on Odin.

People queue, don't get pulled, lose interest. It's just sad. This should be popping near instantly, but this cannot happen currently when all are ganged up in the same GC. And it isn't fair to suggest that players switch GC just to get faster queues, it would still be a broken and flawed system.

Please agree with this thread and help fix this great content for less populated servers T_T

[Velox]

People wanted faction-based PvP...the price they pay is when one faction trumps another in population (which is the same no matter what the game).

[Sessurea]

Makes no difference if it's faction based or not, literally none. All this GC side of it serves now, is to simply limit and hurt the activity of this BG.

[Divinemight]

Is this now a weekly ranting? If you are NA player playing on Odin server.......it is one od EURO server on the CHAOS cluster. Here is the list of reasons for your problem if you met condition I described:

1. Your prime time is different than EURO players.
2. there are only 8 servers in CHAOS while both Aethers and Primals have more than 11 servers.
3. You are a Malestorm is making your situation even worst.

Above situations only apply to NA player who played on EURO server. If it is the case, you are better off to transfer server.

[Sessurea]

Is this now a weekly ranting? If you are NA player playing on Odin server.......it is one od EURO server on the CHAOS cluster. Here is the list of reasons for your problem if you met condition I described:

1. Your prime time is different than EURO players.
2. there are only 8 servers in CHAOS while both Aethers and Primals have more than 11 servers.
3. You are a Malestorm is making your situation even worst.

Above situations only apply to NA player who played on EURO server. If it is the case, you are better off to transfer server.

I'm European. Your assumption has left me speechless however, why on earth did you assume I was an "NA player"?

And yes, maybe switching GC might relieve the problem, it still doesn't resolve the fact that there is no reason to have this system, or at least, there is more reason to not have it than to have it.

[Divinemight]

I'm European. Your assumption has left me speechless however, why on earth did you assume I was an "NA player"?

I am not assume anything, sorry if my wording makes you feel that way. You are not the first one making this type of post. Two weeks ago, one guy from CHAO is complaining of same situation, but he is NA player. Simply provide the same resolution that is all.

You can keep going all you want, you are not the first who refuse to switch anyway. If you don't like GC affliction, that is fine, you are entitled to your opinion. Yet, keep in mind tho, there are people who likes GC affliction conflict system out there.

[Sessurea]

Can you please explain to me why you think this isn't broken? And can you also perhaps offer a reasonable explanation as to why you think it's ok that people should be expected to switch servers in order to enjoy pvp? Your posts so far have been pretty much empty and full of nothing. No offence.

[Divinemight]

Can you please explain to me why you think this isn't broken? And can you also perhaps offer a reasonable explanation as to why you think it's ok that people should be expected to switch servers in order to enjoy pvp? Your posts so far have been pretty much empty, basless and full of nothing. No offence.

Non taken. GC affliction system is fine as it is. There are two causes of your misery. One is being size of your PvP community. The size of PvP community of both Aether and Primals combined is already much smaller than Elemental and Mana. Chaos is even worst, there are only 8 servers in comparison to Aether (13) and Primals (11).

Our PvP community has players have lesser GC loyalty, they will change to stronger GC, in this case Malestorm (40% winning ratio). Triumph its population size to become greater than total of other two GC. In direct comparison, other PvP community who is bigger than us, they don't have this issue.

[Sessurea]

It is not fine as it is. The post you just made completely explains why also. Their model for frontlines having a GC division does not work on small servers, and a fix needs to be made, if even just for the smaller servers. Se made these servers and datacentres, it is up to them to take care of them.

Sit there all you want disagreeing with me, but all you are saying is "it's ok for me, so it can't be broken for you". I'm pretty sure SE will find interest in these posts if they notice them, so keep the posts coming. Any discussion is better than a dead thread I guess.

[tehomegaking]

It is not fine as it is. The post you just made completely explains why also. Their model for frontlines having a GC division does not work on small servers, and a fix needs to be made, if even just for the smaller servers. Se made these servers and datacentres, it is up to them to take care of them.

Sit there all you want disagreeing with me, but all you are saying is "it's ok for me, so it can't be broken for you". I'm pretty sure SE will find interest in these posts if they notice them, so keep the posts coming. Any discussion is better than a dead thread I guess.

Yeah its a dumb model. You get say... 100 players from one GC failing to get into a game. Then on the other GC.. you can't get enough. And this always mixes up, so some matches say flames has full squads and adder has 2 parties with 5 people in or is missing even more and vice versa. Games always become imbalanced through this. If you had say... red team/blue team/green team, and players got into whatever team was needing players, we could all be experiencing instant queues. The GC affiliation is simply screwing us all. I got no problem with switching sides if I need to... re-leveling isn't a problem for me, nor is losing all my gear sets. That isn't the point though, players shouldn't be forced into such measures to get quick games, there would be no massive queues times if we could all just queue to enter FL's as a pvp'r not as a GC member. Why on earth they've done this and shot themselves in the foot is beyond me. FL is doing great, but it would be thriving with a system for random teams. Even wolves den is fangs vs claws. Couldn't we get something like fangs vs claws vs xxxx?

This will never get adressed here though. PVP forums go noticed. Someone would need to write out a very well written explantion in the suggestions forum on why a random team system would benefit FL so much more than the GC. And then we'd need 100+ people liking it for it ever to get any attention from the mods.