Chocobo Dye Experimentation

[Rorichan]

From the other thread (if it hasn't already been shared):

Another theory about the fruit is this

Plum - Lightens red hues but at the same time increases green and blue hues.
Apple - Deepens red hues but at the same time lessens green and blue hues.
Valfruit - Lightens green hues but at the same time increases red and blue hues.
Pear - Deepens green hues but at the same time lessens red and blue hues.
Pineapple - Lightens blue hues but at the same time increases red and green hues.
Berries - Deepens blue hues but at the same time lessens red and green hues.

Apparently someone used this to attain snow white in like two dye sessions.

[ServerCollaps]

Is a very good table. I've placed my own collected data in a different way:



Unfortunately everyone is going nuts on feeding it multiple things without recording proper data, so it's gonna be hard to get a 1:1 feeding basis.

mine became desert yellow -> millioncorn yellow after 1 xelphatol apple plume message
recording the list it should take 2 apples, but it diddnt

[Crankysorc]

mine became desert yellow -> millioncorn yellow after 1 xelphatol apple plume message
recording the list it should take 2 apples, but it diddnt

I've got a listing of one instance 1 apple, one of 2. Either someone misreported or there's another factor we're missing.

[ZReport]

I've got a listing of one instance 1 apple, one of 2. Either someone misreported or there's another factor we're missing.

It's probably not a missing factor but the fact that every color change has a possibility of becoming one of two colors. From what has been happening it's only happened with the first few feeds. So of course only time will tell.

[Sento-Frost]

If someone wants Soot Black, you can try a theory I derivated from post #81 and a bit of observation on my chocobo (staple is in "good" state)
1st session : 17 Berries
2nd session : 2 Apples then 7 Pears
3rd session : 1 Berry

Hardcore version :
1st session : 22 Berries
2nd session : 8 Apples then 7 Pears
3rd session : 1 Berry


I'd test it myself but I have a lot of friends to provide fruits with and that's not the color I want ^^
Please don't be mad if I'm wrong...

Edit: theory is based on the fact fruits give this kind of bonus / malus in RGB notation, capped to 0/255 of course (that's why order matters !)
Berry (-7,5,-7,5,1)
Pineapple (7,5,7,5,-1)
Apple (1,-7,5,-7,5)
Plum (-1,7,5,7,5)
Pear (-7,5,1,-7,5)
Valfruit (7,5,-1,7,5)

[Fufuless]

Adding my last bit of input because I got the color I wanted.

Desert Yellow -> XXX amounts of Apples giving feather notices = Pumpkin Orange.
Pumpkin Orange -> XXX amounts of Apples giving ONE feather notice = Sunset Orange.
Sunset Orange -> XXX amounts of Apples giving ONE feather notice = Blood Red.

Enjoy.

[ZReport]

Adding my last bit of input because I got the color I wanted.

Desert Yellow -> XXX amounts of Apples giving feather notices = Pumpkin Orange.
Pumpkin Orange -> XXX amounts of Apples giving ONE feather notice = Sunset Orange.
Sunset Orange -> XXX amounts of Apples giving ONE feather notice = Blood Red.

Enjoy.

Thank you, this confirms Pumpkin Orange after 15 messages and Sunset Orange after 16. And now we know 17 messages gives Blood Red. One more apple should possibly give Dalamund Red. I know for a fact one berry message from Blood Red should give Dalamund, but seeing one more apple instead should prove interesting.

[Zenaku]

If someone wants Soot Black, you can try a theory I derivated from post #81 and a bit of observation on my chocobo (staple is in "good" state)
1st session : 17 Berries
2nd session : 2 Apples then 7 Pears
3rd session : 1 Berry

Hardcore version :
1st session : 22 Berries
2nd session : 8 Apples then 7 Pears
3rd session : 1 Berry


I'd test it myself but I have a lot of friends to provide fruits with and that's not the color I want ^^
Please don't be mad if I'm wrong...

Edit: theory is based on the fact fruits give this kind of bonus / malus in RGB notation, capped to 0/255 of course (that's why order matters !)
Berry (-7,5,-7,5,1)
Pineapple (7,5,7,5,-1)
Apple (1,-7,5,-7,5)
Plum (-1,7,5,7,5)
Pear (-7,5,1,-7,5)
Valfruit (7,5,-1,7,5)

I would try it soon as all the fruits are done growing at this point that would take longer then seeing if it worked lol

[Ryklin]

For science!

Thanks for the work, guys. I'll be following along.

[Schaeffa]

The spreadsheet I'm collecting data for is up.

Beautiful chart. Love it!

I did notice a possible discrepancy, though. In the other spreadsheet (that's essentially useless now since we're all pretty damn sure it's based on feather procs and not total number of feeds), two combinations for Lavender Blue/Purple were reported: 15 berries total and 17 berries total. Your chart has 17 berry procs listed for the same color. Someone had to be false-reporting to one of the spreadsheets, though I can't be sure which.