Chocobo Dye Experimentation

**ZReport** · 08-23-2014 12:25 AM

Originally Posted by Jyntix

Feeding 1 berry @ Lilac Purple gave me Lavender Purple. I assume this a translation error then? There is no dye called Lavender Purple. It's called Lavender Blue as a dye.

On the RGB Scale Lilac Purple is 124 98 98. Lavender Purple (Blue) is 128 120 169, a difference of +4 +22 +71. It also placed took his bird out of the "red dye scale" and place him in the "purple dye scale" as depicted in game. Jyntix also made mention that he got a changing feathers message after feeding the one berry as well.

Since I'm ironically on Lavender Purple with my own bird, I'll feed my bird Pineapples (lightening blue) until I see a message then wait and see if it shifts upwards to Lilac Purple.

**Codex** · 08-23-2014 12:27 AM

Originally Posted by Percyphanie

The reason only one was needed is because you had one feather message to go up... and one to go down...

My assumption is this:

Think of the dye colours as being sort of on a colour wheel, with a pin on Desert Yellow. When you were in that colour, you started pushing the pin in one direction using your Plums. When the pin crossed the 'border' from Desert Yellow to the resulting colour (in this case Sylph Green) you stopped. It only took one push in reverse to cross back into Desert Yellow, because you initially only had one 'push' or 'step' into Sylph Green.

This is tricky, though, because we can't see this theoretical 'wheel' and don't know where each colour is placed, nor where it starts and stops. Or if a certain colour might have multiple 'plots' on the wheel, which could explain why people are getting the same results with different feeds.

**Codex** · 08-23-2014 12:28 AM

To continue:

It also gets complicated when you feed more than one type of food per feeding, because the pin on the wheel no longer travels in a straight line. Would it be based more on a curve making some sort of ratio/average between the different foods? Or would it implement each individual feed as a 'push' in that fruit's direction?

All these are just thoughts that I've been having, but they seem to make sense (at least to me). Any thoughts?

**Mishini_Dracoto** · 08-23-2014 12:29 AM

It can't be strictly on the existing Dye wheel. I say this because last night after feeding my Chocobo, I resulted in Lilac Purple (Which I don't believe is on the dye wheel, but I'll double check while I'm on lunch). I did NOT record any useful scientific data. Going Forward I will post my exact feeds. I will Screenshot them and upload them to a blog post, and then repost here. (I will likely just edit this post after or while I am on lunch) then tonight / after work, I will edit the same post with the results. I don't think I am going to do 1 step at a time, rather, I am going to feed until I get one Feather Change for each colour (I'm aiming for Black) but I hope it is still useful data.

My History: Got me to Mole Brown

I am Shooting for Soot Black. because of this post:

Originally Posted by Chaud

Got exactly what I wanted first try, a Slate Grey choco ^.^
I fed 21 O'ghomo berries (darken blue), 7 Xelpatol Apples (darken red), and 7 mamook green things (darken green)

I figured that I would keep the ratios, and work towards achieving Grey, and then continue to darken to arrive at black. I noiced Goobue Grey was not available on the Google Doc, so I aimed for slightly less than what they used, before proceeding. This is what I had done:

Start: Desert Yellow
Fed 5 O'ghomo berries (darken blue), 5 Xelpatol Apples (darken red), and 5 mamook Pears (darken green)
(berry, Apple, Pear, Berry, Apple, pear, etc etc)
Feed 10 more Berries, wait 6 hours.
Lilac Purple.
Fed berry, Apple, Pear, berry, Apple, Pear, waited 6 hours.
I got Mole Brown - That is what I'm with as I start being more methodical in my posts.

Screenshot:

Experimental Data : Soot Black
Chocobo Stables: Good
Start Colour: Mole Brown
Berries, Grow New Feathers twice + Pears Grow new Feathers once.

Fliegenhuhn Devours the bunch of O'ghomoro berries.
Fliegenhuhn's plumage will change in 6 hours.
Fliegenhuhn is beginning to grow new feathers!

Fliegenhuhn Devours the Mamook Pear.
Fliegenhuhn Devours the Mamook Pear.
Fliegenhuhn Devours the Mamook Pear.
Fliegenhuhn Devours the Mamook Pear.
Fliegenhuhn is beginning to grow new feathers!
Fliegenhuhn's plumage will change in 5 hours and 58 minutes.

Fliegenhuhn Devours the bunch of O'ghomoro berries.
Fliegenhuhn Devours the bunch of O'ghomoro berries.
Fliegenhuhn Devours the bunch of O'ghomoro berries.
Fliegenhuhn Devours the bunch of O'ghomoro berries.
Fliegenhuhn Devours the bunch of O'ghomoro berries.
Fliegenhuhn is beginning to grow new feathers!
Fliegenhuhn's plumage will change in 5 hours and 56 minutes.

Result : Gloom Purple

Chocobo Stables: Good
Current Colour: Gloom Purple.
Fed: 5 berries and 5 Pears, Feathers change after every feed

[14:16]Fliegenhuhn devours the Mamook pear.
[14:16]Fliegenhuhn's plumage will change in 6 hours.
[14:16]Fliegenhuhn is beginning to grow new feathers!
[14:16]Fliegenhuhn devours the Mamook pear.
[14:16]Fliegenhuhn is beginning to grow new feathers!
[14:16]Fliegenhuhn's plumage will change in 5 hours and 59 minutes.
[14:16]Fliegenhuhn devours the bunch of O'Ghomoro berries.
[14:16]Fliegenhuhn is beginning to grow new feathers!
[14:16]Fliegenhuhn's plumage will change in 5 hours and 59 minutes.
[14:17]Fliegenhuhn devours the bunch of O'Ghomoro berries.
[14:17]Fliegenhuhn is beginning to grow new feathers!
[14:17]Fliegenhuhn's plumage will change in 5 hours and 59 minutes.
[14:17]Fliegenhuhn devours the bunch of O'Ghomoro berries.
[14:17]Fliegenhuhn is beginning to grow new feathers!
[14:17]Fliegenhuhn's plumage will change in 5 hours and 59 minutes.
[14:17]Fliegenhuhn devours the bunch of O'Ghomoro berries.
[14:17]Fliegenhuhn is beginning to grow new feathers!
[14:17]Fliegenhuhn's plumage will change in 5 hours and 59 minutes.
[14:17]Fliegenhuhn devours the bunch of O'Ghomoro berries.
[14:17]Fliegenhuhn is beginning to grow new feathers!
[14:17]Fliegenhuhn's plumage will change in 5 hours and 58 minutes.
[14:17]Fliegenhuhn devours the Mamook pear.
[14:17]Fliegenhuhn is beginning to grow new feathers!
[14:17]Fliegenhuhn's plumage will change in 5 hours and 58 minutes.
[14:17]Fliegenhuhn devours the Mamook pear.
[14:17]Fliegenhuhn is beginning to grow new feathers!
[14:17]Fliegenhuhn's plumage will change in 5 hours and 58 minutes.
[14:18]Fliegenhuhn devours the Mamook pear.
[14:18]Fliegenhuhn is beginning to grow new feathers!
[14:18]Fliegenhuhn's plumage will change in 5 hours and 58 minutes.

Result: Morbol Green

**lvicious** · 08-23-2014 12:30 AM

Originally Posted by Hulan

Many of the different values of brown were reported as single feedings before the 12 hour mark after the first batch of fruit appeared on the market (meaning it must have been a single feeding).

Man I love this theoretical stuff with mmorpg's. Yes that ^ is correct as that is exactly what happened to me.

**Tha_Dede** · 08-23-2014 12:31 AM

UPDATE
Finally got the color I wanted (Abyssal Blue)!!! I wanna thank everyone on the forums for their hard work in helping me figure it out ^_^ thanx soooooooo much!

Starting color: Desert Yellow.
Chocobo Rank: 10
Stables: Good
Feed: 3 x O'Ghomoro Berries, 3 x Xelphatol Apple (in this order)
Messages:

1st Feed - “Chocobo's plumage will change in 6 hours.”
2nd Feed - “Chocobo devours the O'Ghomoro Berries.”
3rd Feed - “Chocobo devours the O'Ghomoro Berries.”

Waited 5hrs 57mins

4th Feed - “Chocobo is beginning to grow new feathers!”
5th Feed - “Chocobo is beginning to grow new feathers!”
6th Feed - “Chocobo is beginning to grow new feathers!”

Result: Cork Brown

Starting color: Cork Brown
Chocobo Rank: 10
Stables: Good
Feed: 3 x O'Ghomoro Berries, 3 x Xelphatol Apple (in this order)
Messages:

1st Feed - “Chocobo's plumage will change in 6 hours.”
2nd Feed - “Chocobo devours the O'Ghomoro Berries.”
3rd Feed - “Chocobo devours the O'Ghomoro Berries.”
4th Feed - “Chocobo is beginning to grow new feathers!”
5th Feed - “Chocobo is beginning to grow new feathers!”
6th Feed - “Chocobo is beginning to grow new feathers!”

Result: Coral Pink

Starting color: Coral Pink
Chocobo Rank: 10
Stables: Fair
Feed: 2 x Mamook Pear
Messages:

1st Feed - “Chocobo's plumage will change in 6 hours.”
2nd Feed - “Chocobo is beginning to grow new feathers!”

Result: Pumpkin Orange

Starting color: Pumpkin Orange
Chocobo Rank: 10
Stables: Fair
Feed: 2 x Mamook Pear
Messages:

1st Feed - “Chocobo's plumage will change in 6 hours.”
2nd Feed - “Chocobo is beginning to grow new feathers!”

Result: Halatali Yellow

Starting color: Halatali Yellow
Chocobo Rank: 10
Stables: Fair
Feed: 2 x Xelphatol Apple
Messages:

1st Feed - “Chocobo's plumage will change in 6 hours.”
2nd Feed - “Chocobo is beginning to grow new feathers!”

Result: Pumpkin Orange

I'm testing out Cearka's theory about HEX so I'm gonna guess my next color should be Sunset Orange if I did the math correctly (lolmath) but we'll see ^_^ Although I guess it could go back to Coral Pink since the Valfruit might negate the Mamook Pear

Starting color: Pumpkin Orange
Chocobo Rank: 10
Stables: Fair
Feed: 3 x Valfruit
Messages:

1st Feed - “Chocobo's plumage will change in 6 hours.”
2nd Feed - “Chocobo devours the Valfruit.”
3rd Feed - “Chocobo is beginning to grow new feathers!”

Result Sunset Orange (guess was correct)

Gonna guess Regal Purple or maybe Plum Purple

Starting color: Sunset Orange
Chocobo Rank: 10
Stables: Fair
Feed: 5 x O'Ghomoro Berries
Messages:

1st Feed - “Chocobo's plumage will change in 6 hours.”
2nd Feed - “Chocobo devours the O'Ghomoro Berries.”
3rd Feed - “Chocobo devours the O'Ghomoro Berries.”
4th Feed - “Chocobo devours the O'Ghomoro Berries.”
5th Feed - “Chocobo is beginning to grow new feathers!”

Result: Blood Red (guess was incorrect)

Starting color: Blood Red
Chocobo Rank: 10
Stables: Fair
Feed: 1 x Valfruit
Messages:

1st Feed - “Chocobo's plumage will change in 6 hours.”
1st Feed - “Chocobo is beginning to grow new feathers!”

Result: Sunset Orange

Starting color: Sunset Orange
Chocobo Rank: 10
Stables: Fair
Feed: 1 x Xelphatol Apple
Messages:

1st Feed - “Chocobo's plumage will change in 6 hours.”
1st Feed - “Chocobo is beginning to grow new feathers!”

Result: Blood Red

Starting color: Blood Red
Chocobo Rank: 10
Stables: Good
Feed: 5 x O'Ghomoro Berries
Messages:

1st Feed - “Chocobo's plumage will change in 6 hours.”
2nd Feed - “Chocobo devours the O'Ghomoro Berries.”
3rd Feed - “Chocobo devours the O'Ghomoro Berries.”
4th Feed - “Chocobo devours the O'Ghomoro Berries.”
5th Feed - “Chocobo is beginning to grow new feathers!”

Result: Regal Purple

Starting color: Regal Purple
Chocobo Rank: 10
Stables: Good
Feed: 12 x O'Ghomoro Berries
Messages:

1st Feed - “Chocobo's plumage will change in 6 hours.”
2nd Feed - “Chocobo devours the O'Ghomoro Berries.”
3rd Feed - “Chocobo devours the O'Ghomoro Berries.”
4th Feed - “Chocobo devours the O'Ghomoro Berries.”
5th Feed - “Chocobo devours the O'Ghomoro Berries.”
6th Feed - “Chocobo devours the O'Ghomoro Berries.”
7th Feed - “Chocobo devours the O'Ghomoro Berries.”
8th Feed - “Chocobo devours the O'Ghomoro Berries.”
9th Feed - “Chocobo devours the O'Ghomoro Berries.”
10th Feed - “Chocobo devours the O'Ghomoro Berries.”
11th Feed - “Chocobo devours the O'Ghomoro Berries.”
12th Feed - “Chocobo is beginning to grow new feathers!”

Result: Royal Blue

Starting color: Royal Blue
Chocobo Rank: 10
Stables: Good
Feed: 8 x Doman Plums
Messages:

1st Feed - “Chocobo's plumage will change in 6 hours.”
2nd Feed - “Chocobo devours the Doman Plums.”
3rd Feed - “Chocobo devours the Doman Plums.”
4th Feed - “Chocobo devours the Doman Plums.”
5th Feed - “Chocobo devours the Doman Plums.”
6th Feed - “Chocobo devours the Doman Plums.”
7th Feed - “Chocobo devours the Doman Plums.”
8th Feed - “Chocobo is beginning to grow new feathers!”

Result: Othard Blue

Starting color: Othard Blue
Chocobo Rank: 10
Stables: Good
Feed: 7 x Cieldalaes Pinepples
Messages:

1st Feed - “Chocobo's plumage will change in 6 hours.”
2nd Feed - “Chocobo devours the Cieldalaes Pinepple.”
3rd Feed - “Chocobo devours the Cieldalaes Pinepple.”
4th Feed - “Chocobo devours the Cieldalaes Pinepple.”
5th Feed - “Chocobo devours the Cieldalaes Pinepple.”
6th Feed - “Chocobo devours the Cieldalaes Pinepple.”
7th Feed - “Chocobo is beginning to grow new feathers!”

Result: Peacock Blue

Starting color: Peacock Blue
Chocobo Rank: 10
Stables: Good
Feed: 2 x Valfruit
Messages:

1st Feed - “Chocobo's plumage will change in 6 hours.”
2nd Feed - “Chocobo is beginning to grow new feathers!”

Gonna guess Othard Blue
Result: Othard Blue (guess was correct!)

Starting color: Othard Blue
Chocobo Rank: 10
Stables: Good
Feed: 7 x O'Ghomoro Berries
Messages:

1st Feed - “Chocobo's plumage will change in 6 hours.”
2nd Feed - “Chocobo devours the O'Ghomoro Berries.”
3rd Feed - “Chocobo devours the O'Ghomoro Berries.”
4th Feed - “Chocobo devours the O'Ghomoro Berries.”
5th Feed - “Chocobo devours the O'Ghomoro Berries.”
6th Feed - “Chocobo devours the O'Ghomoro Berries.”
7th Feed - “Chocobo is beginning to grow new feathers!”

Hoping for Royal Blue
Result: Storm Blue (newp lol)

Starting color: Storm Blue
Chocobo Rank: 10
Stables: Good
Feed: 1 x Xelphatol Apple
Messages:

1st Feed - “Chocobo's plumage will change in 6 hours.”
1st Feed - “Chocobo is beginning to grow new feathers!”

Hoping for Royal Blue since others have gotten this result
Result: Royal Blue (woo!!!)

Starting color: Royal Blue
Chocobo Rank: 10
Stables: Good
Feed: 9 x Xelphatol Apple
Messages:

1st Feed - “Chocobo's plumage will change in 6 hours.”
2nd Feed - “Chocobo devours the Xelphatol Apple.”
3rd Feed - “Chocobo devours the Xelphatol Apple.”
4th Feed - “Chocobo devours the Xelphatol Apple.”
5th Feed - “Chocobo devours the Xelphatol Apple.”
6th Feed - “Chocobo devours the Xelphatol Apple.”
7th Feed - “Chocobo devours the Xelphatol Apple.”
8th Feed - “Chocobo devours the Xelphatol Apple.”
9th Feed - “Chocobo is beginning to grow new feathers!”

Hoping for Abyssal Blue since others have gotten this result
Result: Regal Purple (/sob)

Starting color: Regal Purple
Chocobo Rank: 10
Stables: Good
Feed: 2 x Doman Plums
Messages:

1st Feed - “Chocobo's plumage will change in 6 hours.”
2nd Feed - “Chocobo is beginning to grow new feathers!”

Result: Royal Blue

Starting color: Royal Blue
Chocobo Rank: 10
Stables: Good
Feed: 1 x Xelphatol Apple
Messages:

1st Feed - “Chocobo's plumage will change in 6 hours.”
1st Feed - “Chocobo is beginning to grow new feathers!”

Result: Regal Purple

Starting color: Regal Purple
Chocobo Rank: 10
Stables: Good
Feed: 1 x Doman Plums
Messages:

1st Feed - “Chocobo's plumage will change in 6 hours.”
1st Feed - “Chocobo is beginning to grow new feathers!”

Result: Royal Blue

Starting color: Royal Blue
Chocobo Rank: 10
Stables: Good
Feed: 1 x Xelphatol Apple
Messages:

1st Feed - “Chocobo's plumage will change in 6 hours.”
1st Feed - “Chocobo is beginning to grow new feathers!”

Result: Regal Purple

Starting color: Regal Purple
Chocobo Rank: 10
Stables: Good
Feed: 1 x Doman Plums
Messages:

1st Feed - “Chocobo's plumage will change in 6 hours.”
1st Feed - “Chocobo is beginning to grow new feathers!”

Result: Royal Blue

Starting color: Royal Blue
Chocobo Rank: 10
Stables: Good
Feed: 2 x Xelphatol Apple
Messages:

1st Feed - “Chocobo's plumage will change in 6 hours.”
2nd Feed - “Chocobo is beginning to grow new feathers!”

Result: Regal Purple

Starting color: Regal Purple
Chocobo Rank: 10
Stables: Good
Feed: 1 x Doman Plums
Messages:

1st Feed - “Chocobo's plumage will change in 6 hours.”
1st Feed - “Chocobo is beginning to grow new feathers!”

Result: Royal Blue

Starting color: Royal Blue
Chocobo Rank: 10
Stables: Good
Feed: 1 x Xelphatol Apple
Messages:

1st Feed - “Chocobo's plumage will change in 6 hours.”
1st Feed - “Chocobo is beginning to grow new feathers!”

Result: Regal Purple

Starting color: Regal Purple
Chocobo Rank: 10
Stables: Good
Feed: 1 x Doman Plums
Messages:

1st Feed - “Chocobo's plumage will change in 6 hours.”
1st Feed - “Chocobo is beginning to grow new feathers!”

Result: Royal Blue

Starting color: Royal Blue
Chocobo Rank: 10
Stables: Good
Feed: 1 x Xelphatol Apple
Messages:

1st Feed - “Chocobo's plumage will change in 6 hours.”
1st Feed - “Chocobo is beginning to grow new feathers!”

Result: Regal Purple

Starting color: Regal Purple
Chocobo Rank: 10
Stables: Good
Feed: 1 x Doman Plums; 9 x Xelphatol Apple
Messages:

1st Feed - “Chocobo's plumage will change in 6 hours.”
1st Feed - “Chocobo is beginning to grow new feathers!”

Removed Chocobo from Stable

1st Feed - “Chocobo's plumage will change in 6 hours.”
2nd Feed - “Chocobo devours the Xelphatol Apple.”
3rd Feed - “Chocobo devours the Xelphatol Apple.”
4th Feed - “Chocobo devours the Xelphatol Apple.”
5th Feed - “Chocobo devours the Xelphatol Apple.”
6th Feed - “Chocobo devours the Xelphatol Apple.”
7th Feed - “Chocobo devours the Xelphatol Apple.”
8th Feed - “Chocobo devours the Xelphatol Apple.”
9th Feed - “Chocobo is beginning to grow new feathers!”

Result: Dalamud Red

Starting color: Dalamud Red
Chocobo Rank: 10
Stables: Good
Feed: 1 x O'Ghomoro Berries
Messages:

1st Feed - “Chocobo's plumage will change in 6 hours.”
1st Feed - “Chocobo is beginning to grow new feathers!”

Result: Regal Purple

Starting color: Regal Purple
Chocobo Rank: 10
Stables: Good
Feed: 8 x Doman Plums
Messages:

1st Feed - “Chocobo's plumage will change in 6 hours.”
2nd Feed - “Chocobo devours the Doman Plums.”
3rd Feed - “Chocobo devours the Doman Plums.”
4th Feed - “Chocobo devours the Doman Plums.”
5th Feed - “Chocobo devours the Doman Plums.”
6th Feed - “Chocobo devours the Doman Plums.”
7th Feed - “Chocobo devours the Doman Plums.”
8th Feed - “Chocobo is beginning to grow new feathers!”

Result: Gloom Purple

Starting color: Gloom Purple
Chocobo Rank: 10
Stables: Good
Feed: 2 x Doman Plums
Messages:

1st Feed - “Chocobo's plumage will change in 6 hours.”
2nd Feed - “Chocobo is beginning to grow new feathers!”

Result: Royal Blue

Starting color: Royal Blue
Chocobo Rank: 10
Stables: Good
Feed: 1 x Xelphatol Apple, 5 x O'Ghomoro Berries
Messages:

1st Feed - “Chocobo's plumage will change in 6 hours.”
1st Feed - “Chocobo is beginning to grow new feathers!”
waited some time
2nd Feed - “Chocobo devours the O'Ghomoro Berries.”
3rd Feed - “Chocobo devours the O'Ghomoro Berries.”
4th Feed - “Chocobo devours the O'Ghomoro Berries.”
5th Feed - “Chocobo devours the O'Ghomoro Berries.”
6th Feed - “Chocobo devours the O'Ghomoro Berries.”

Result: No Change

Starting color: Royal Blue
Chocobo Rank: 10
Stables: Good
Feed: 8 x Xelphatol Apple
Messages:

1st Feed - “Chocobo's plumage will change in 6 hours.”
2nd Feed - “Chocobo devours the Xelphatol Apple.”
3rd Feed - “Chocobo devours the Xelphatol Apple.”
4th Feed - “Chocobo devours the Xelphatol Apple.”
5th Feed - “Chocobo devours the Xelphatol Apple.”
6th Feed - “Chocobo devours the Xelphatol Apple.”
7th Feed - “Chocobo devours the Xelphatol Apple.”
8th Feed - “Chocobo is beginning to grow new feathers!”

Result: Regal Purple

Starting color: Regal Purple
Chocobo Rank: 10
Stables: Good
Feed: 2 x Doman Plums
Messages:

1st Feed - “Chocobo's plumage will change in 6 hours.”
1st Feed - “Chocobo is beginning to grow new feathers!”
2nd Feed - “Chocobo is beginning to grow new feathers!”

Result: Royal Blue

Starting color: Royal Blue
Chocobo Rank: 10
Stables: Good
Feed: 3 x Xelphatol Apple
Messages:

1st Feed - “Chocobo's plumage will change in 6 hours.”
2nd Feed - “Chocobo is beginning to grow new feathers!”
3rd Feed - “Chocobo is beginning to grow new feathers!”

Result: Regal Purple

Starting color: Regal Purple
Chocobo Rank: 10
Stables: Good
Feed: 7 x Mamook Pears
Messages:

1st Feed - “Chocobo's plumage will change in 6 hours.”
2nd Feed - “Chocobo devours the Mamook Pear.”
3rd Feed - “Chocobo devours the Mamook Pear.”
4th Feed - “Chocobo devours the Mamook Pear.”
5th Feed - “Chocobo devours the Mamook Pear.”
6th Feed - “Chocobo devours the Mamook Pear.”
7th Feed - “Chocobo is beginning to grow new feathers!”

Result: Gloom Purple

Starting color: Gloom Purple
Chocobo Rank: 10
Stables: Good
Feed: 1 x O'Ghomoro Berries
Messages:

1st Feed - “Chocobo's plumage will change in 6 hours.”
1st Feed - “Chocobo is beginning to grow new feathers!”

Result: Abyssal Blue

**ZReport** · 08-23-2014 12:32 AM

Originally Posted by Hulan

This result is extremely exciting. I'm afraid I do not have the time nor the liquid assets to make a serious contribution to the actual experimentation, but I will throw out ideas where I can. Though I am afraid I am in large part responsible for the current obsession with the RGB scale (I know how much you hate this idea). I was one of the primary originators of the RGB/CMY color scale theory. That being said, I am far from married to that idea, and it clearly is flawed or at least incomplete.

Your observation that Lighten and Deepen steps negate each other is mathematically extremely powerful. If the theory

Code:

Color1 + FruitStep = Color2 == Color2 - FruitStep = Color1
Where FruitStep is a single step in a direction 
and - FruitStep is a single step using the opposite fruit

holds true, that implies a direct relation between a Color and the number of steps in each direction.

I strongly believe that there is no random nature within the colouring itself. The random factor appears based on the number of messages displayed. If each fruit has a 30% chance of causing a change, there will be a noticeable variance in the result (based on the number and type of fruit). I believe, however, that the actual change caused by a single "Step" is constant and predictable.

Also, I believe it is important to note that based on what other users have reported, it must be possible to perform multiple steps in a single direction per feeding. It would be impossible to have seen the variety of browns that we have seen from O'Ghomoro Berry feeding without it being possible. Many of the different values of brown were reported as single feedings before the 12 hour mark after the first batch of fruit appeared on the market (meaning it must have been a single feeding).

I just saw this quote and came to the exact same conclusion, considering my previous two posts. What should happen now is that someone should document players who feed and stop once the message is given, and record the step in either direction on the color scale. It should be of note that due to adding other colors, the dye chart would no longer go in a straight direction steps negative or positive, but might jump to another scale completely.

---

If I break down my own Bird's changes between my first two feedings:

Desert Yellow (First Feed START)
???
???
???
???
???
???
Shale Brown (7th Message; Second Feed START)
???
???
???
???
???
???
???
???
???
Lavender Purple (10th Message)

I only used O'Ghomoro Berries so there shouldn't be any wacky deviations. Every "???" is a "starts to grow new feathers" message. Another hypothesis that could come from this is that you may be able to achieve Soot Black by only feeding one type of darkening fruit. A counter to this theory is that it might have a cap, being the darkest color of the scale that's not Soot Black. Soot Black might also be on it's own scale as well. Soot black isn't even a pure black, just a very dark grey.

**Aldora** · 08-23-2014 12:33 AM

Originally Posted by Hulan

I strongly believe that there is no random nature within the colouring itself. The random factor appears based on the number of messages displayed. If each fruit has a 30% chance of causing a change, there will be a noticeable variance in the result (based on the number and type of fruit). I believe, however, that the actual change caused by a single "Step" is constant and predictable.

I was thinking the same thing.

Next to that, i want to try and make a relation between the original color and the color returned through the process of 1 feeding session. That way, i want to see if there is a logical direction you can take in order to get the desired color with the least amount of feather shedding. (^_~ )

Originally Posted by Hulan

Also, I believe it is important to note that based on what other users have reported, it must be possible to perform multiple steps in a single direction per feeding. It would be impossible to have seen the variety of browns that we have seen from O'Ghomoro Berry feeding without it being possible. Many of the different values of brown were reported as single feedings before the 12 hour mark after the first batch of fruit appeared on the market (meaning it must have been a single feeding).

And to back this up, i want to check if it’s possible to make a matrix representation which displays a path to take in order to get from Color X to Color Y.

**Fufuless** · 08-23-2014 12:41 AM

I have only been using apples so far. Nothing else. It has gone as such (if anyone else is doing apples only and sharing progress every time the feathers change message appears...):

First bunch of apples before I tried started to experiment more precisely: Pumpkin Orange.
Second bunch of apples until I got feathers changing ONCE then waited six hours: Sunset Orange.
Gave him a bunch of more apples until I got feathers changing ONCE, and am waiting for further results. I'm hoping the trend continues to strengthen red and it will be one of the -red- reds, Blood Red etc. Will post.

Others who only use apples could try and see if they also get the same results from Pumpkin -> Sunset with one feathers changing.

**Gilgameshkun** · 08-23-2014 12:51 AM

For mine I ended up getting Othard Blue my first session but didnt record the feather changes. But I ended up experimenting on it and this is what I got.

Starting color: Othard Blue.
Chocobo Rank: 11
Stables: Good
Feed: 2 Xelphatol Apples
Messages:
1st Feed - “Chocobo's plumage will change in 6 hours.”
I ended up waiting 56 mins because of something irl...
2nd Feed - “Chocobo devours the Xelphatol Apple.” “Chocobo is beginning to grow new feathers!”
5hrs and 4 mins til Plumage change message.

Checked the Bucephalus 5hrs and 4mins later and he was Storm Blue.

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