Thread: Patch 2.3 Shield Oath Issues

Anyone else noticing shield oath not giving as much of an enmity buff as pre patch? Since the patch, I've been having some trouble holding hate solid against nearly everyone else in the party and my mp is nearly drained during every pull (even small ones of 5 mobs) due to having to use flash more than I'm used to. Before the patch, to hold hate on a group of mobs equal to what I've been doing in the new dungeons, I've only ever had to use flash sparingly while using my enmity combo through the mobs. It's gotten to the point where I've switched out my vit accessories for strength and been popping X-ethers while weaving in my enmity combo thought the mob list. That seems to help but the fact that I have to do that when I've never had enmity issues in the past is odd to me.

Of course I could just suck, but I'd like to think I know what I'm doing, lol.

I think you are on to something. I though it might have been just me but I'm glad others have noticed it aw well. I will give the on/off a try later to see if that helps.
I 1st noticed it in the Main Story Line Roulette when pulling the groups and taking them to the cannons. Healer throws a quick heal on you as your run by taking them to the cannons and you look and 1 or 2 of then peel off.

Originally Posted by Avy4576

Currently it only scales with level and nothing else.

No; Flash scales with your weapon damage and your attack power. It's also affected by anything that modifies your damage%. However, Fight or Flight only modifies physical damage%, so, Flash is unaffected.
Warrior's Maim (damage%), Unchained (damage%), and Berserk(attack power%), on the other hand, all modify Flash's potency.

As far as I've tested, it's basically the equivalent of an out-of-combo Rage of Halone, or 500 enmity potency.

As for the Shield Oath issues, I haven't noticed anything, and the testing I've done does NOT suggest that there's any problem with Shield Oath's enmity multiplier (even following death).

Originally Posted by Avy4576

Considering that flash is a magic based ability it would not be affected by weapon damage, attack power or damage percentage modifiers ...

Flash scales with things like weapon damage, strength, and determination. It is unaffected by Fight or Flight, but is buffed by things that modify your attack power like Berserk and potions. If I recall correctly (it's been a while since I checked), things like Raging Strikes and Blood for Blood even work with it. Uncomboed RoH and Flash are similar enmity, though I don't think Flash has any variance to its effectiveness like melee attacks do, nor can it crit (as far as I know, anyway). I'm at a bit of a loss as to how you came to the conclusion that Flash scales only with level, since that, at least, is very easy to go test. Just get two naked paladins and give one a weathered short sword and the other any level 50 weapon and have them both Flash something. The results should be obvious.

edit: didnt really read argyle's post before posting. He's got the flash stuff right. There could be a shield oath bug floating around but I haven't noticed it.

BLM's AoE potency didn't go up so if you're having problems with that, it's not related.