[Suggestion] Better (Real) Reward for Playing Job-in-Need in Roulettes

[PapaGuu]

Instead of giving me a small amount of gils while everyone receives the same amount of bonus myth and sold tomes, how about rewarding the job(s) in need, be it tanks or healers (sorry DPS) with additional myth and/or sold tomes?

Also to address tanks and healers who abused DF and instant-quit, in addition to the penalty timer make them lose the roulette bonus tomes and the jobs-in-need tomes for the day as well.

Please consider this idea, SE. This may just entice enough people to play tanks and healers and create the balance in DF everyone is looking for

[Surian]

Implementing any kind of punishment is just going to make people stop playing as those jobs, or through the Dutyfinder.

I dont play as my Paladin most of the time, it's my best geared job, but it's frustrating and stressful. If my rewards would be better than say, queueing up on my BLM, i would go Paladin. But not if i cannot leave if i get an absolute fail group that either;

- doesn't have the power to make it through the dungeon.
- doesn't have the intelligence or the patience to follow basic strategy.
- is rude and abusive, shouting at you for every little mistake.
- i have to hold the hand of someone who doesnt even want to put in any effort at all.

I have no problems doing a dungeon i dont prefer. Infact, i prefer most dungeons that -arent- mythflox on PLD. And i certainly dont mind helping people who are new to a dungeon, dont get me wrong, especially if they are willing to learn and listen. But if i dont like my current group after all that, the 30 minute (now unavoidable) lockout is more than enough punishment. It might even be too much of a punishment already, but it's enough.

If you make it so that people arent allowed to leave, other problems will pop up. People will become rude or abusive, hoping they will get kicked (once the dungeon timer allows for this), which will leave you with the same empty slot as before, only now everyone is pissed off and you had to wait even longer. People will AFK to get kicked. People will go offline to get kicked. People will troll the entire way wiping people hoping they get kicked.

Seriously, implementing any kind of punishment with our community will only make this WORSE.

[PapaGuu]

If my rewards would be better than say, queueing up on my BLM, i would go Paladin.

That's exactly why I'm pleading for better rewards. I run on my DRG most of the time and will only tank for my FC members since there's no real incentive for me to do so in roulettes.

Seriously, implementing any kind of punishment with our community will only make this WORSE.

I see your point on people abusing and trolling to get kicked and I also share your frustration on players who don't listen or bother to look up how to run a dungeon properly. However, I feel this is inevitable anytime you run with other players from a different cultural background, timezone, age, and experience in mmo. I am for the punishment so that DPS won't get screwed and be put back into the queue for another 10-20 minutes. When I queue in DF, I don't expect to SR any dungeons but if the party is capable and agrees to do so then that's what we do.

I have yet to party with 3 noobies (oh oh I sense Murphy's Law is going into full effect tonight) as you've described above. As long as I have a decent healer or a competent DPS we'll carry the party through the dungeon, though it may take more time than I would like. Then again, imo it's about having the proper expectation when you queue in DF. Just my 2 cents...

[Shinji2787]

Couldn't you just vote abandon versus kick/leaving to avoid the punishment?

[PapaGuu]

Couldn't you just vote abandon versus kick/leaving to avoid the punishment?

There's a time limit (I believe 15 min?) before you can abandon... which is why some people would rather instant drop and take the penalty and the rest of the party gets burned...