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    Quote Originally Posted by Camate View Post
    As of right now we do not have any plans to change the TP cost of Fracture.
    It's not so much the cost, but what Fracture actually does. It doesn't do enough damage to justify being used, which is the problem. The high cost just gives an ability that there isn't a good reason to use another reason to not use it.

    The TP cost can be left alone. It's the effects that need to be buffed.

    Also, it's nice to see that the community team actually cares about the number-crunchy places in the forums. Too often I've seen the community team just ignore us.
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    Last edited by Kitru; 07-04-2014 at 04:17 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Camate View Post
    Greetings,

    As of right now we do not have any plans to change the TP cost of Fracture.
    So many other posts worthy of Official answers and you waste your time on this one. I think we should let you get picked-on some more Camate.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kitru View Post
    It's not so much the cost, but what Fracture actually does. It doesn't do enough damage to justify being used, which is the problem. The high cost just gives an ability that there isn't a good reason to use another reason to not use it.

    The TP cost can be left alone. It's the effects that need to be buffed.

    Also, it's nice to see that the community team actually cares about the number-crunchy places in the forums. Too often I've seen the community team just ignore us.
    It's all about how you use it, sure at base value it's a 300 potency attack but then you have to remember Warrior has the following skills on hand.
    Berserk=50% dmg increase
    Storm's Eye=reduce slash resist by 10%
    Main=20% dmg increase

    With Defiance off on a single target say a boss you pretty much have an 80% increase in dmg potency.
    100= 180
    20=36=360

    aka with all possible buffs your Fracture is now a total 540 potency strike which is quite hefty DoT.

    Fracture is moreso meant to be used at the most optimal times, and excessive use of it will of course drain your TP to the point where it becomes harder to tank, that's the point of it. That's why there is the "cooldown" from Berserk that prevents you from using abilities that use TP to force you to regain TP during that time, but at least you have Flash to fall back on during that time.

    Long story short, there is nothing wrong with the TP cost of Fracture, just learn to utilize it more efficiently when it's needed rather than every opportunity.

    Honestly if my numbers aren't wrong Fracture is actually one of Warrior's strongest abilities when used with all the buffs and does not require a chain of combos to pull off.
    Fracture=540 (80 TP)
    Butcher Block=504 (Technically cost 190 TP to use) sure total dmg is 1134

    But looking above 2 Fracture is pretty much as cost effective as using Butcher Block combo 1080 for 160 TP compared to 1134 for 190 TP

    Then there is Inner Beast 340 requires 5 charges to use, ranging from abilities or combos at most TP wise ti cost 70/60/60/70/60/60/70/60 to use it once that's a lot of TP however it uses no TP itself and it's not effected by dmg down from Defiance being up. While yes you can use certain abiliies to use said attack it's stilla rather high TP cost to use compared to other abiltiies.

    So in reality Fracture is actually a really well balanced ability that dishes out a nice amount of dmg for it's TP cost, yes excessive use of it will drain your TP because it becomes 80/80/80 compared to 70/60/60 it adds up and since you don't gain any defiance charges during that time you don't get that one round buffer or TP regain from using Steel Cyclone or Inner beast.

    Honestly it's easy for a community rep to respond to this, cause it's a simple answer to receive, player ask about ability, they quickly bring it up and receive an answer, it's not that complex to get an answer over this as it might be with other questions people ask however for those asking the question, try to take the time to look into it more before seeing it as a TP sapper cause upon a little bit of investigation Fracture is an efficient ability,
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    Last edited by Airget; 07-04-2014 at 05:40 AM.

  4. #34
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    Quote Originally Posted by Airget View Post
    It's all about how you use it, sure at base value it's a 300 potency attack but then you have to remember Warrior has the following skills on hand.
    Read the thread before you post. We've actually gone over the contributions of Fracture in normal rotations as well as in totally buffed situations.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Airget View Post
    for those asking the question, try to take the time to look into it more before seeing it as a TP sapper cause upon a little bit of investigation Fracture is an efficient ability,
    everything you brought up in your post has already been discussed in this thread but you neither read nor responded to it.

    is that irony or hypocrisy?
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    Last edited by Giantbane; 07-04-2014 at 07:01 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Giantbane View Post
    everything you brought up in your post has already been discussed in this thread but you neither read nor responded to it.

    is that irony or hypocrisy?
    Just a failure to read all the information already available/discussed.

    But that's fairly normally if there's more than 1 page and no first post summary.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Themis View Post
    Just a failure to read all the information already available/discussed.

    But that's fairly normally in the english fourms.
    FTFY
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    Quote Originally Posted by Valmar View Post
    So many other posts worthy of Official answers and you waste your time on this one. I think we should let you get picked-on some more Camate.
    While you may not find this topic "worthy" of an official answer, that doesn't mean that the person that started the thread or the others that showed support agree. If we receive answers on a subject, we feel that it's a worthy of a reply. We'll continue to try and get responses on a wide range of topics as we go forward, just as we have always done.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Camate View Post
    While you may not find this topic "worthy" of an official answer, that doesn't mean that the person that started the thread or the others that showed support agree. If we receive answers on a subject, we feel that it's a worthy of a reply. We'll continue to try and get responses on a wide range of topics as we go forward, just as we have always done.
    But, but, but you've crushed my hopes and dreams, and, and ....

    Thanks for the response, Camate
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    Quote Originally Posted by Camate View Post
    While you may not find this topic "worthy" of an official answer, that doesn't mean that the person that started the thread or the others that showed support agree. If we receive answers on a subject, we feel that it's a worthy of a reply. We'll continue to try and get responses on a wide range of topics as we go forward, just as we have always done.
    The job of a dev and community rep are thankless ones. But some of us appreciate the work and the answers! Even if they are not relevant to us personally.
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