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  1. #161
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    Quote Originally Posted by MrLeonheart View Post
    Guaranteed drop at a specific interval, while keeping the low drop rate so that if you do get lucky, it takes a bit less time to move on. You're guaranteed progress after a certain point, but have the chance of being able to progress more quickly if you happen to get lucky.
    Or you gt a stacking buff which increases the drop chance slightly in the zone until you get a drop as you complete FATEs. Then the buff clears. Or you leave the zone. Start at 1% and increase by 1% every FATE you complete without a drop.
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  2. #162
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    Quote Originally Posted by MrLeonheart View Post
    Guaranteed drop at a specific interval, while keeping the low drop rate so that if you do get lucky, it takes a bit less time to move on. You're guaranteed progress after a certain point, but have the chance of being able to progress more quickly if you happen to get lucky.
    While I understand and it would make some people happier, 'guaranteed' = 100% ≠ randomness.

    In any case, with the amounts of threads (threats?) on this issue, SE will have no choice but to give us all Animus for all our Jobs, including those from the coming Expansion through Moogle Mail..
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    Last edited by KingOfAbyss; 04-25-2014 at 01:48 AM.

  3. #163
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sapphic View Post
    Doing something easy once, is not hard, it's easy. Doing the same thing 100 times doesnt suddenly make it harder, more difficult and in no way challenging. 683 FATEs (I kept count out of interest) it took to get my 12 ATMA. It's patience not difficulty that gets you the ATMA weapon.
    Patience? In MMOs? In 2014?

    Ain't nobody got time for that!

    *Kudos for your atmas.
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  4. #164
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sapphic View Post
    Doing something easy once, is not hard, it's easy. Doing the same thing 100 times doesnt suddenly make it harder, more difficult and in no way challenging. 683 FATEs (I kept count out of interest) it took to get my 12 ATMA. It's patience not difficulty that gets you the ATMA weapon.
    Testing your patience is a "form" of difficulty :P. Sometimes I like that, but if it gets ridiculous like it is now ( more than 50 hours to complete the FIRST part of it) then that's where I draw the line :P.
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  5. #165
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    Quote Originally Posted by Starlord View Post
    Testing your patience is a "form" of difficulty :P. Sometimes I like that, but if it gets ridiculous like it is now ( more than 50 hours to complete the FIRST part of it) then that's where I draw the line :P.
    I just hope you didn't do all these hours in one day.. must be tired.. rest is important for the blue bar on our xp..
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  6. #166
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    Jadus Salaheem
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    Is an Atma weapon completed in 6 hours worth more or less than an Atma weapon completed in 60 hours?
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  7. #167
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    Galen Amaranthe
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dhex View Post
    Is an Atma weapon completed in 6 hours worth more or less than an Atma weapon completed in 60 hours?
    More, because you have had 54 hours to farm tomes to upgrade it =-)

    (Assuming you had 60 hours of gaming time- if you don't then it's a difference between completing and not completing. You have to take into account the time value and opportunity costs)
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    Last edited by ApolloGenX; 04-25-2014 at 02:40 AM.

  8. #168
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    Quote Originally Posted by NoRyoKu View Post
    Do you people understand that for players like me that can only get the time to grind atma 5 hours a week, i will obtain my atma in like a month. THEN I have to geth 13500 myth. The rate I accumulate them now is something like 700-800 per week. This mean i'm gonna get Animus in like 6 month ++. This mean patch 2.3 and surely patch 2.4. This mean more quests about relic.

    Are you kidding me!!!!!!!!!!!! I so don't care that the quest is postpone. Will it be ever possible to finish the relic quests for atma / animus / novus for a casual player????? Is this weapon only for pure grinders and no lifers??? Because I can't see the end of it for myself
    Everyone please remember that it's not a race to get the damn weapons! Enjoy the game and get it when you get it. So delay or no delay, shouldn't impact your fun. Don't let the hardcore players tell you otherwise!
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  9. #169
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    Quote Originally Posted by KingOfAbyss View Post
    I just hope you didn't do all these hours in one day.. must be tired.. rest is important for the blue bar on our xp..
    Everquest 1, for my cleric relic, 36 hours straight camping Ragefire (boss needed in the epic chain). Then they changed it to spawn when needed :S Fun times as everyone accepted the huge camp times needed so instead of complaining we socialised. No, I couldnt do EQ1 style camps again XD
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    Last edited by Sapphic; 04-25-2014 at 06:25 AM. Reason: Epic not relic O.O

  10. #170
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    Nyvina Virian
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    Midgardsormr
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    Quote Originally Posted by Starlord View Post
    Nothing to do with "time" they simply see not many people have gotten their animus, so they are taking the extra time to take all the feedback provided and make the next part of the Zodiac quest better.
    I personally think this is a smart move. no need to rush and have more hot heads then we have now :P.
    Starlord, your signature is cracking me up.. I just keep watching.. and laughing haha
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