Make Physick and Cure Different

[Fluff]

Currently both Scholar and White Mage can take Physick/Cure as a cross-class skill. However, it makes zero sense to take it since they're exactly the same skill. A Scholar can use them both with the same amount of utility, while a White Mage has no reason to use Physick since Cure is traited.

I really don't care how the two are different just as long as some change is made to make them both useful and distinct. One idea I've kicked around is making Physick instant cast with a lower potency. This adds a new tool for all healers - an instant low-efficiency heal that can be cast on the move. It would also give Black Mage and Summoner a minor amount of party support in the form of a heal that can be cast on the move.

[Yallaid]

supported!

But is this the right sub-forum for this? Doesn't seem like website feedback, and I'd hate for this idea to get buried cause it wasn't filed into the right slot.

[Alec_Slater]

I'm pretty sure the "distinct" element, from the design team's perspective, is actually in terms of the other cross-class destinations for the skill. That is, BLM, SMN, and PLD. PLD can't get Physick, and BLM + SMN can't get Cure. Rather than violate the general rules of cross-class selections coming from only two other base classes, they made separate versions for ACN and CNJ.

I really don't want to use up another cross-class skill slot just to get the standard (full-potency) Cure spell on my SCH, as I prefer its behavior over that of your proposed Physick change. As it is, there are already too many cross-class skills a SCH should have from CNJ for solo-queueing: Cleric Stance, Protect, Stoneskin. As it stands, I already have too many to choose from, as after Swiftcast, I can only take one of Blizz II or Surecast (useful in super end-game content) - I already have to leave out Aero and find myself too lazy to think ahead for swapping Surecast and Blizz II as it is.

[Phafi]

I too like to cast healing spells on PLD BLM and SMN for 200 that it makes a difference in any way at all.

Also, please elaborate on your uses for surecast and blizzard 2, they seem worthless. @Alec_Slater

I'd support this change for Physick @OP

[Kyrosiris]

Also, please elaborate on your uses for surecast and blizzard 2, they seem worthless

I think it's a pretty good way to tell the quality of a healer by their opinion on Surecast. The less they think of Surecast, the less of a competent player they are.

[Alec_Slater]

Surecast - Ultima's airship crashes (the purple circles) and Twintania's Fireballs both interrupt casts a majority of the time, for two examples on Surecast. I think at least one version of Garuda may have an interrupting "ultimate" type of attack as well, but I can't recall at the moment.

Blizz II is better than Ruin spam in any clumped-up AoE situation as a SCH, as 50x2 = 100 potency > 80 potency from Ruin. If I'm bothering to DPS (hence Cleric), I believe it's only proper that I pack Blizz II as a result, since SCH dps is all about small-pack AoE.

For fun, it's worth noticing that while SCH doesn't get Holy, when all dots (the Bio-Bio II-Miasma trio, Shadow Flare, and Miasma II) are on a set of mobs, that's 110 potency per tick from the trio + 25 from shadow flare + 10 from Miasma II = 145 dot potency per 3s. Add 50 potency to that, per mob, and you're approaching Holy's potency per GCD while all the dots remain in effect.

[NorthernLadMSP]

Sorry, I don't support lowering Physick's potency. Scholar's already have less potent healing spells than white mage's (Succor vs. Med/Med II, no Cure II or Cure III), and now you want their main heal to be less potent?

[Vinta]

Sorry, I don't support lowering Physick's potency. Scholar's already have less potent healing spells than white mage's (Succor vs. Med/Med II, no Cure II or Cure III), and now you want their main heal to be less potent?

Hnnnng. I can't. My brain hurts.

Scholar's whole shtick isn't its potency, it's its utility. Being able to cure on the move without using an Aetherflow stack would be a godsend.

[NorthernLadMSP]

Hnnnng. I can't. My brain hurts.

Scholar's whole shtick isn't its potency, it's its utility. Being able to cure on the move without using an Aetherflow stack would be a godsend.

Not when you're lowering the potency of their main heal. If they ADDED a spell like you're talking about, then cool.

EDIT: Oh, I just remembered Scholars can cross-class Cure, so I guess that would be ok. Not that it will happen.

[Tivia]

It does make sense..learn how to play sch right and you will realize why Physick isn't and shouldn't be a instant cast. Just because they appear to be the same doesn't mean they are. Cure and Physick are completely different in how they perform. Try parsing out Cure vs Phys as a sch, then do it as a whm.