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    Zencurse's Avatar
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    James Cairn
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    Leviathan
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    Arcanist Lv 53

    Black Mage Suggestion (Not a "complainy" thread)

    So, you're doing your black magely thing, casting some fires throwing some blizzards, when you cast a Fire I and get a Firestarter proc, awesome, ok now just gotta finish this next Fire I I started casting when the last connected AND another Firestarter proc...Completely wasting the last one you got and making you feel like you lost a huge damage boost. So, you resolve to not waste your procs, maybe cancel a Fire I to use a proc...But then you remember what your Caster DPS 101 Professor taught you: "Always be casting a spell" and you sigh outloud to yourself as you continue to waste a Firestarter proc 16% of the time you cast 2 Fire Is back to back.

    This problem however could be solved quite easily and I think I'm going to throw it out there as a suggestion. Why not make Firestarter procs stack to 2? That way you don't "waste" procs sometimes and it doesn't really affect our rotation that much.
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    Bunni Stormjaeger
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    Why not make it stack to III, like the other stacking abilities? That way we can just blast off Fire III all in a row and make big explosions happen.
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    Philia Felice
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    Pretty fantastic suggestion. Not only would it be a much-needed sustained DPS boost, but it'd help lessen movement's impact on BLM's DPS as you could save up 1-2 procs for when you know you have to move without a DPS loss, and it'd solidify our burst damage niche as well. Presently BLM is not such a frontrunner in ST burst (barring proc madness of course) that it can't be made up for by a comp without BLM, and this is a problem when that's why you bring BLM in the first place if they can't Flare stuff.
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    Risk Solis
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    This is a suggestion made before countless times and yes it would fix the entire problem. But we just have to wait and see if SE will implement it or not.
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    Aikaal Leyma
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    This would be a great passive for a next expansion. Even if BLM are behind compared to other DPS. They still do great in certain situations and they are wanted. But I agree, losing procs is a stupid mechanic.
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    Last edited by Aikaal; 04-17-2014 at 10:23 PM.

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    Jack Magus
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    At least you have a proc.
    As a Summoner I don't get a proc...not even a free Bane or Fester or even a single Aetherflow stack.
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    Aikaal Leyma
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    But as a SMN, you have a constant high DPS and even while your pet is bugged and don't get your spell speed right now, you're single target DPS is still higher than BLM.
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    Raegen Beaumont
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    not a new suggestion, but everytime it pops up I'm gonna support it. but as long as SE thinks BLM is fine (and tbh it is, if you consider that aoe dmg, which is just mostly useless in coil/ex primal runs) we probably won't see any changes regarding this.
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    I'zizi Pi
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    Make Surecast also prevent movement interruption. That is all.
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    I agree that I don't think SE is correct in thinking that "Black Mages are fine" and of course I wish we had slightly more single target (but as it is right now, at least we are not so far behind as to not be viable and a good black mage will still out DPS the average summoner). But even if SE doesn't want to increase our single target DPS we should really still at least see this fixed as all it would really take is lowering Fire IIIs potency by a tiny bit (wasting a firestarter proc isn't very common, but common enough to be a problem). That said, this change would also be a good opportunity to help us in all the above stated ways. Having it stack to 3 was something I considered last night also when writing this and it would drastically alter our play style and that'd b cool (saving Fire IIIs for the best moments without overstacking). Could consider these changes with Thundercloud also, but thats even rarer (2.5% chance for 2 ticks to proc back to back)
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