Translations (JP to English)

[ShinigamiKayla]

It's still better than getting nothing at all imo.

people will complain if they get nothing people will complain if they get something x_x I hate how the world works... I like the idea though at least get some new armor variety out for the common player so they can feel more important v/s people who have time to raid and stuff >.>

[Warlock]

which if true would only make tokens completely useless.

Whats better? to re-do the dungeon wearing something closer to the best drops or to re-do dungeon with the same shit gear you tried the first time? lol some ppl

[alexhatesmil]

Whats better? to re-do the dungeon wearing something closer to the best drops or to re-do dungeon with the same shit gear you tried the first time? lol some ppl

Obviously, you should already have the best drops before doing the dungeons. Duh. BIS or GTFO.

[Nuru]

Obviously, you should already have the best drops before doing the dungeons. Duh. BIS or GTFO.

Content finder gives no f**ks.

[Matsume]

Well from my understanding the token bought gear is equivalent to a NQ version of the same droped gear (being HQ). I honesly think there wont be much of a noticable difference between the two sets other than for vanity or epeen purposes.

2-3 rare boss drops per kill + tokens for all seems like a legitimate looting system. It's just that part about the weekly lottery system that I don't understand. It could have been a mistranslation or could be supplmentary info from the original interview. However, now that you've mentioned a need/greed system brought up by YoshiP himself I'm even more intrigued...


Fooooooooooound iiiiiiiiiiiiiit

Looking into which article he got the tokens blurb from.

Update: The first link was a video advertisement for Crystal Conquest... don't know if i'm missing something??? Got it to work. Anyway, I was able to run the other three articles through google translate. I skimmed through them but didn't find the slightest reference of raid boss drops nor tokens. I mght add that google was unable to translate the entirety of each article so it's likey part of the untranslated japanese text or in the first article that led m to crystal conquest...

Update 2:

Thanks for the links, the info in regards to token is in the first article, the 4gamer one. My translation might not be 100% accurate or as good as Rein's so maybe have him look into it later.

吉田氏：
　今回，新生FFXIVでは，ボスモンスターのレアアイテムドロップを確率で縛りつけるのではなく，ボスを倒せれば必ずなんらかの報酬が得られるようになっています。
　レアドロップも，1パーティに対して2～3個はドロップするので，それをパーティ内で抽選していただきます。その代わり，その抽選に参加する権利がコンテンツによって週3回まで，のように決まっています。そのリセットタイマーが各コンテンツに用意されるので，それの確認などですね。
　もちろん，抽選に漏れた人にはトークン（チケットのようなもの）が渡され，トークンを貯めて交換できるアイテムもあるので，結果に対して必ず成果があるようになっています。

This time in New FFXIV, instead of of tying Boss monster rare drops to luck/chance, your guaranteed to obtain some kind of reward for defeating the boss. One party will get around 2-3 rewards so you'll have to draw(i assume he means roll can also mean lottery) for it within the party, As a result you'll be limited to 3 rolls/draws/lottery per week depending on the content, and a reset timer will be provided for each content.

And of course those who do not win the lottery will be awarded token/tickets which can be accumulated and exchanged for items so in result you will always gain something

確実4gamer: に2～3人はレアアイテムが手に入り，ほかの人にもちゃんと報酬が用意されていると。

4gamer: So 2-3 people will be guaranteed items and the others will also obtain some kind of reward?

吉田氏： レアアイテムに関しては，運が悪いとなかなか自分に権利が回ってこないかもしれませんが，それでも週3回や4回はチャレンジできますし，それで手に入らなければ，再取得まで別のコンテンツへという形になると思います。このあたりは，実際にプレイしていただかないと，感覚としてはお伝えしにくいかもしれませんね。

Yoshida:
In regards to rare items, if your luck is really bad, then your chance might not come around but even then you can challenge the content 3-4 times a week.(this next sentence is a bit confusing for me, so I'll color it green since I'm not sure if I'm reading it right)If you still don't get it then you can do different content until you can re-acquire it. In this regard, unless you play and experience it yourself it is hard to explain.

Again l would like to state that my Japanese is limited and as such the translation might not be 100% accurate.

The part in green, there were some kanji in this sentence that i did not understand, The way i understood it is if you fail to get the reward within that week, then you can do other content till your lottery participation timer is up again. if this translation is somewhat accurate then this can mean a few things.

If lottery participation timer is different from re-entry timer then this would indicate that if you lose the lottery 3x then you won't be able to roll again even if u got nothing, so win or lose you lose lottery participation count.

"そのリセットタイマー" "that reset timer" in this case, the way i understand it, "that" is referring to the lottery participation, implying that the timer is for the lottery participation. But for all we know in SE's head lottery participation and re-entry might be the same thing, so its hard to say if the two are different. Taking into the fact that u can only participate in lottery 3x (1st quote) but can challenge the content 3-4x (2nd quote) i myself think the 2 are different, an official translation on the subject would be nice .

In the first quote he says that you draw for the items within the party(at least that is how i understood it) implying it might not be system side random lottery, people might have the option to pass, those who don't get the drops will get token instead.

One last time i would like to remind people that my translation skills are very limited, there are some Kanji within the article that i do not understand well so keep that in mind when you discuses and hope we get something more accurate and official soon.

Reinheart can confirm?

[Reinheart]

It's from the last 4gamer interview i did quit translation yesterday... orz it was text where they talked about the main menu for the PS3 talking about the 'social' one where other interview they just mentioned it was to check friend list, linkshell, company... sorry

Should of copy/paste whole document into google doc and go through each paragraph like the other two interview orz...

Here's whole translation for that section, I'll add it to the other post so it doesn't get all mixed up.

Source: http://www.4gamer.net/games/092/G009287/20121010042/

4Gamer：
　では，それを前提に「ソーシャル」「コンテンツ」「ライブ」といったメニューに関しても教えてください。前者の2つは名称から想像できそうですね。
OK could you please explain about the menu social, contents, and live? For the first two we could probably guess from the name.

吉田氏：
　「ソーシャル」はフレンドやリンクシェル，フリーカンパニーなどのコミュニティ関連です。「コンテンツ」は「コンテンツファインダー」の呼び出しと，コンテンツごとのリワード（報酬）再取得までの期限の確認などができます。
Y: For Social it's community related stuff such as friend, linkshell or free company. For Contents when you call up the contents finder you check the time remaining to reobtain rewards for each contents.

4Gamer：
　リワードの再取得期限といいますと？
What do you mean by timing to reobtain rewards?

吉田氏：
　今回，新生FFXIVでは，ボスモンスターのレアアイテムドロップを確率で縛りつけるのではなく，ボスを倒せれば必ずなんらかの報酬が得られるようになっています。
　レアドロップも，1パーティに対して2～3個はドロップするので，それをパーティ内で抽選していただきます。その代わり，その抽選に参加する権利がコンテンツによって週3回まで，のように決まっています。そのリセットタイマーが各コンテンツに用意されるので，それの確認などですね。
　もちろん，抽選に漏れた人にはトークン（チケットのようなもの）が渡され，トークンを貯めて交換できるアイテムもあるので，結果に対して必ず成果があるようになっています。
Y: This time in ARR FFXIV instead of having percentage drop on boss monster, we have it made so when you defeat the boss monster you will get some type of reward. Even for rare drop for each party there will be 2-3 item drops, so would like to have that go through lottery within party. But to participate in that lottery it is set for each contents to 3 times per week.
For that we have reset timer available for each contents so it's to check on those status. Of course for those that didn't make the lottery will get a token (something like a ticket) and by collecting the token there are items you can trade so it's made so that there is some type of result.

4Gamer：
　確実に2～3人はレアアイテムが手に入り，ほかの人にもちゃんと報酬が用意されていると。
So there are rare items for sure for 2-3 people and for others you have other rewards prepared.

吉田氏：
　レアアイテムに関しては，運が悪いとなかなか自分に権利が回ってこないかもしれませんが，それでも週3回や4回はチャレンジできますし，それで手に入らなければ，再取得まで別のコンテンツへという形になると思います。このあたりは，実際にプレイしていただかないと，感覚としてはお伝えしにくいかもしれませんね。
For rare items if you have bad luck that privileged may not come around to you but you can challenge 3-4 times a week and if you still don't get it you can try other contents until you can try to reobtain. For this part it may be hard to understand till you actually play and try it out.

[NoctisUmbra]

Sounds to me like they're completely doing away with re-entry timers and instead utilizing the new lottery timers. It makes sense. When you sit down to do a dungeon, you're not limited in how often you can do it... However, it still quite effectively limits how much loot comes out of said dungeon.

So essentially you can clear it as a party and go right back in if you like, but after 3 tries at lotting each, players individually will have no chance at rare loot.

I'd thought of it as a sort of limit of 3 per week, but after thinking of it in this sort of timer context, it seems more like you won't be limited by reentry timers, but instead once you participate in a lottery your timer for that dungeon will activate for a period of 48 hours or something, effectively preventing you from getting loot more than 3-4 times a week.

[Reinheart]

If it's with static group I see no problem but this could be a problem say if you're with some random group using content finder and say you guys did 3 runs and person A got that loot and he gets what he/she wants he/she could just drop the party and leave as to if it was static party even if that person A got it he/she probably can help till others get the loot while he/she gets the token.

[Req]

Uh so, if an item drops and no one in the party can participate in the lottery does it just go to the ground or do only items that people want to lot on drop or something? I guess I don't understand the concept.

[NoctisUmbra]

Let the discussions continue in discussion threads:

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...nslation/page7