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    Translated - Suggestion to add options for Bazaar (answered by rep)

    Suggestion to add options for Bazaar so you don’t have to cancel the bazaar to change the price or adding a option to add the same item that is in inventory (newly obtained) into the bazaar without the need of cancelling and redoing the bazaar.

    Original Thread Link: http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/threads/14408

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    Quote Originally Posted by clock View Post
    現在バザーに出している商品(保管用も含めて)を新たに鞄に入手した場合
    バザーを中止して再度バザーを設定しなければなりませんが
    これを同じ商品であれば鞄からバザーに追加出来る様になるとかなり便利だと
    思うのですがどんなもんでしょうか?

    アイテムを選択した際にでもバザーに設定してあるのと同じ物の場合は
    バザーに追加と言う項目を表示して金額の修正が出来れば楽だと思います
    Currently when I have items already up on bazaar and when I obtain the same item it goes into the inventory and will need to cancel the bazaar and redo the bazaar again to include the item. If it’s the same item being sold, I would think it would be good to have a option to have the item added to the bazaar directly.

    When selecting an item in inventory and already being up on bazaar having a option like “add to bazaar” and adjusting the price would make it easier.

    Quote Originally Posted by Ysms View Post
    同じアイテムにも関わらず、出品中のアイテムを鞄に戻し、再度設定するのはとても煩わしく感じますね。
    これは是非実装して頂きたいと思います。
    こういった細かいところにも配慮して頂かなければ、ユーザのストレスは堪る一方です。

    ついでに、金額も一度アイテム欄に戻さず出品中の状態で変更出来る様にして欲しいですね。
    It’s troublesome just to go into bazaar and returning the item into regular inventory and putting up again, I would like to see feature like this (OP). If you don’t get these type of issues fixed users will just get more stressed out.



    Quote Originally Posted by Triairy View Post
    皆さん、こんばんは。バザーにて出品中のアイテムの価格を変更する際に、一度バザーを中止する必要がある件について開発チームに確認してきました。現状の仕様では実装することが困難なため、サーバーの根本改修にあわせ、実装に向け検討していきますとのことでした。ご意見ありがとうございました。
    Good evening everyone,

    I have brought up this topic to the dev team regarding having to cancel the bazaar once to change the price. With current situation it is very hard and we will look into it as we work on repairs to the server.

    Thank you for your comment.


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    So again... and again... it's the server... wonder how much of all our good inputs posted on here can't be done because of the 'server' issue... Don't get mad at the reps though, they are just getting the info and relaying the message, not their fault.
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    Last edited by Reinheart; 06-24-2011 at 12:35 AM.

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    Unbelievable that this game isn't even a year old and they sound so much like it has the limitations of the 9-year old FFXI, if not worse.

    Great work as always Reinheart, thanks!
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    By now people who seemed to deny this should realize that this is the exact reason no MMO has went with a serverside interface. They either move it client side and fix a hell of a lot of problems, or we wait for them to optimize the servers and see if they can do all they say they could when it is.

    Quote Originally Posted by Sephr View Post
    Unbelievable that this game isn't even a year old and they sound so much like it has the limitations of the 9-year old FFXI, if not worse.

    Great work as always Reinheart, thanks!
    Serverside interface is heavily limiting.
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    Thanks Reinheart.
    I guess this more or less answers the thread I made here.
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    yar thanks!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Elexia View Post
    Serverside interface is heavily limiting.
    Agreed, they need to make it client-side asap.
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    Wow what is it with these servers, is there anything they can do? I wonder if SE is looking at moving onto a new server technology because if they can't do things like this and LS management options because of the servers then what can the servers do. Of course SE could just be fobbing us off and using it as an excuse.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Adol View Post
    Thanks Reinheart.
    I guess this more or less answers the thread I made here.
     ooh didn't see that one sorry should of added to there since it's exact same stuff like you said.

    This stuff was also bothering me for a while so it's good it's been addressed and answered... answer I already guessed, pretty sure most that's been following this forum knows the answer to most of the questions....
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    Quote Originally Posted by AlexiaKidd View Post
    Wow what is it with these servers, is there anything they can do? I wonder if SE is looking at moving onto a new server technology because if they can't do things like this and LS management options because of the servers then what can the servers do. Of course SE could just be fobbing us off and using it as an excuse.
    It's not the technology, it's the interface. A lot of stuff people want (management, better searching etc etc) is tied to the interface which with a serverside interface, it has to be damn well perfectly optimized to actually work and be possible. Now, throw in the fact that something like a bazaar system would generally be in your client module, which then interacts with the server, which in some MMOs I've played, the items actively stack onto each other even in bazaar/shop. That's because the client tells it to then the server confirms it.

    In XIV? The server has to tell it to, then the server has to confirm what it just said, thus why MMOs stray from making 100% reliance on the server. Which iirc the original reasoning was to fight RMT and botting.
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    Yeah I wAs wondering if it was all done server side to combat RMT, not an excuse though if other MMO's can manage it. If everything is done client side though doesn't that open up a door for tampering with the code though?
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