EX garuda question: suprana only strategy

[Remn]

Using the "provoke method" (OT grabs spiny and Chirada, Chirada dies first, MT and OT then swap Spiny/Suparna) the OT should grab the Spiny for several reasons:

- this way the MT always knows which person will get the debuff, so he know where to look for the stacks
- OT has control over the spiny's position, so he can bring it to the edge of the big cyclone
- healers and DPS can focus on their job rather than watching for a debuff and having to bring the spiny within provoke range
- spiny will often go to the MT so you OT has to grab the spiny, because otherwise he can only provoke spiny or Suparna off of the MT later on



Spiny goes to a random only works out when that random is not the MT. It's best to have your OT provoke the spiny right away, instead of dragging Chirada into the OT corner first, then realizing that the spiny is on the MT, moving all the way to voke spiny of the MT (which is now later than it would initially have been, causing provoke to come off CD later) and then moving back into his corner (all the while your DPS already goes to town on Chirada so they will probably pull aggro, because you OT was busy with trying to catch the Spiny and moving around all over the place)

I see, didnt aware that new strat has OT pull 2nd sister. I stop farming Garuda month ago ;P. My usual strat of taking her never involve taunting sister off the MT. if MT pop his/her CD in timely manner he should be able to tank 2.
as for spiny, the timing for OT to voke spiny is alway the same on sister phase regardless of who has it (Around 15 second per debuff, give or take I have 40 second b4 I have to do teh 1st Voke. so it never an issue for me.

[Vodomir]

I see, didnt aware that new strat has OT pull 2nd sister. I stop farming Garuda month ago ;P. My usual strat of taking her never involve taunting sister off the MT. if MT pop his/her CD in timely manner he should be able to tank 2.
as for spiny, the timing for OT to voke spiny is alway the same on sister phase regardless of who has it (Around 15 second per debuff, give or take I have 40 second b4 I have to do teh 1st Voke. so it never an issue for me.

Of course that MT would have no issue tanking Garuda and Suparna, that's not why the OT taunts Suparna. The OT only spots Suparna so that your Melee DPS doesn't have to deal with Whicked Wheels (especially not double whicked wheel).

[odie]

can 3 tanks do this? and how much would the strategy change if they did?

[Iondera]

3 tanks can... however if you want 1 tank for each sister and 1 for Garuda just do the triangle strat with dps taking Chirada. It's really the safest way and can be done fast. How this works is MT takes Garuda NE, OT takes Suparna NW, and DPS/heals take Chirada SE during tornado phase, everything before is exactly the same as other strats. The only danger is DPS dying to downburst which can be negated by them stacking for it. 1 DPS eating downburst hits em for around 4k, and can be reduced all the way to around 200 depending on how many people in the SE get hit.

[Squa]

"Suprana Only" strategy, means the MT takes Suprana/Garuda, and OT tanks Chirada, and the DPS kills only Suprana, and leaves Chirada alive and burns Garuda. You take about 3.8k damage in the jump but can be done with SCH or decent HP people at full health.

[Thorauku]

"Suprana Only" strategy, means the MT takes Suprana/Garuda, and OT tanks Chirada, and the DPS kills only Suprana, and leaves Chirada alive and burns Garuda. You take about 3.8k damage in the jump but can be done with SCH or decent HP people at full health.

Too many people answered incorrectly in this thread. This is the right answer TS.

[ImDingDing]

"Suprana Only" strategy, means the MT takes Suprana/Garuda, and OT tanks Chirada, and the DPS kills only Suprana, and leaves Chirada alive and burns Garuda. You take about 3.8k damage in the jump but can be done with SCH or decent HP people at full health.

Thank you thank you, this answered my confustion.

[Lewena]

I am interested in the 3 pulls method, so can anyone explain the strategy (or a link)?

[ImDingDing]

Just tried this as a BLM. BLM in general can do this with really low ilv because of "Manaward". And "Apocatastasis" can help another low hp member. Really ez for low dps team.

[Strawberrycream]

Just tried this as a BLM. BLM in general can do this with really low ilv because of "Manaward". And "Apocatastasis" can help another low hp member. Really ez for low dps team.

I thought Apocatastasis was not wind damage? Does it actually work?