SCH vs WHM

[MsKirsten]

Thanx SE for giving us SCH Lustrate increase to 25% from 20%. A whm was complaining to me during Ultima that he doesn't have Lustrate which I can only assume his envy of an instacast heal. My reply to him was simply: "Scholar's heals do not tick! Call it even?"

Seriously though SE please balance out Sch more so that we are up to par with Whm. It seems like Sch is simply a supporting role to Whm at the moment. You can do anything with 2 Whm and a bard in an 8 party but you struggle with 2 Sch and I have people complaining "damn two sch" and left party before we even begin. Please at least give us a ticking healing ability. Regen would be great! Or better still, make succor tick. Try doing Pharious' last boss Siren with a Sch and it is tedious!

[Lyrinn]

"Scholar's heals do not tick! Call it even?"

And we'll call it even when WHM gets proper mana regen. SCH has a lot of damage mitigation and party-wide buffs. All WHM can do is heal; I should hope we have stronger heal capabilities. Stop trying to make the two overlap; they have different jobs despite both being healers. If SCH/SCH is that big of a problem, then SE needs to fix the way shields stack, not buff SCH/nerf WHM.

[Psychosamm]

SCH and WHM both have their perks, giving the perks of one class to the other would be a terrible idea. Having a shield would be awesome, but it will never happen for WHM, because that's not how the class is meant to work. In many situations SCH are arguably better, better MP management, less enmity, damage mitigation, and free heals from your pet. Your class isn't weak by any stretch, you just have to learn to play it to its full potential. I have both leveled to 50, i prefer WHM, but many perfer SCH, and there's nothing wrong with that. SCH and WHM are best when played with each other.

PS Whispering Dawn from Eos is a regen ability

[Kyana]

SCH+WHM >>>>>> WHM+WHM

[Kyomih]

Oh fun...a SCH vs WHM thread :/

Not that we already have a thousands and every other thread with another topic sooner or later gets turned into a SCH vs WHM thread anyway.

Not going to comment on the whole job discussions as I have done that a lot in the past but on your Pharos comment:

Lustrated totally ignores the healing debuff from Lunatic Voice. Use it.
Also have your tank interrupt Lunatic Voice = win.
Make sure your group knows what to do when Siren disappears to avoid the AoE Charm timer and tell them to kill the seargents first.
I find healing Pharos on my SCH easier than on my WHM. SCH is king when it comes to single target healing and you should have absolutely no issue with Siren if your group knows what to do.

[Hysterior]

why????!!!
doing both, like both
none of these job is more OP than the other one, both have pros and cons
when I am a scholar, I crave for regen and medica 2, when I am WHM I wish I had lustrate and the fairy
in FFXIV you can be both, so be both or just one if you like only one of the 2
enough with those pointless threads

[mikoto_qc]

Hmmm i think i have seen that post already. Maybe i'am wrong and its new.

[Conna]

Whm is not better than scholar and vice versa.
Whm have better aoe recovery (raid healer)
Sch have better single target healing (tank healer)
That said I have done things like Ifrit EX with 2 schs it requires more skill, but is doable.

[UlricCraft]

EoS + Physick = 700 potency heal
Cure II = 650 potency heal

SCH = Single target
WHM medica II = AoE

The significance in heal difference is minuscule and they are both adequate classes. SPREAD THE WORD, STOP THESE THREADS.

SCH+SCH = bad.
WHM+WHM = good.
WHM+SCH = best.

SCH mitigation doesn't stack, so having two is generally ill advised (in my opinion)

[Deifact]

I actually think SCH beats WHM because it brings more to the table than just heals. If BRD is DPS/support then SCH is heal/support. I think SCH does lack some aoe healing but that's WHM strength and you can get around it by macroing succor and whispering dawn for an aoe heal, aoe shield and aoe regen to top people off.