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  1. #1
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    awvv's Avatar
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    M'laiboli Lhea
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    Gilgamesh
    Main Class
    Arcanist Lv 50

    Huge SMN nerf: we're losing Thunder

    Patch notes: "Thunder Can now only be used by thaumaturge and black mage."

    Thunder is at least 10% - 15% of SMN total DPS (including pet). This is a pretty big nerf for SMN... especially considering melee DPS classes are getting buffed.

    Well, time to go BLM.. except for all this myth I spent.

    Oh, and Allagan Boots nerf:
    Before: INT+18, VIT+18, Critical Hit Rate+21, Accuracy+15
    After: INT+18, VIT+18, Spell Speed+21, Determination+11
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    Last edited by awvv; 12-15-2013 at 02:49 AM.

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    Ice Beam
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    Gilgamesh
    Main Class
    Arcanist Lv 17
    You also gain Blizzard II at 50 potency

    That's a huge buff to your AOE damage.
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    Last edited by Wolf_Gang; 12-15-2013 at 02:44 AM.

  3. #3
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    M'laiboli Lhea
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    Gilgamesh
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    Arcanist Lv 50
    Blizzard II potency is now 50. Single target DPS is significantly worse without Thunder.
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    Sparda Amon
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    Behemoth
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    Thaumaturge Lv 50
    Meh Bliz II nerf..used to be part of my aoe rotation..sigh both BLM and SMN got nerfed I guess.
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    Cullen Dionysion
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    Adamantoise
    Main Class
    Gladiator Lv 70
    Way to make SMN even more undesirable to play SE, woo.
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  6. #6
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    Character
    Crevox Shadeseer
    World
    Hyperion
    Main Class
    Arcanist Lv 70
    SMN got destroyed

    Nerfed in every way except for the extremely minor Bane buff. They said they were going to nerf Bard... they barely if even got touched. This is THE biggest nerf of the entire patch.

    They did not fix ANY of the issues Summoners have. Ifrit Egi is still garbage, SMN/Bane AoE is still TERRIBLE compared to BLM, BLM still has sleep while SMN has Tri-disaster (which doesn't even last as long), Enkindle is still a sucky version of Flare on a 5minute cooldown...

    I don't even know what to say. We don't even have Virus rotations anymore. SMN is just a sucky version of BLM; we bring very little to the table.
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    Gridania
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    Character
    Cesil Rapture
    World
    Sargatanas
    Main Class
    Arcanist Lv 90
    I don't want to play anymore...

    This is unacceptable. They did -nothing- to offset removing thunder.
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  8. #8
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    Gridania
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    Character
    Rinh'sae Poales
    World
    Leviathan
    Main Class
    Summoner Lv 90
    I don't even understand why they would remove Thunder. Having it didn't off-balance us at all.
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    Character
    Hamtaro Kakamaro
    World
    Excalibur
    Main Class
    Arcanist Lv 50
    This is crazy... what that...

    I don't want to play anymore ; ;
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    Character
    Krysta Lynn
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    Balmung
    Main Class
    Marauder Lv 50
    You can really tell this team has never messed with an mmo before. Outright removing a spell that is such a solid part of a Summoner's damage with no offset? Do they test these things? SE isn't some new fledgling company, they should know better than this, but you can see how green they are in this game. I honestly wonder just how many mmo vets they have working over there. Even FFXI didn't do things this ridiculously hasty.
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