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    Archulak's Avatar
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    Thaumaturge Lv 90

    [To The Dev's]About the Ancient Buckler

    So I'm very aware that putting [to the dev's] means pretty much nothing it's just there to get peoples attention for an issue that I find pretty glaring as someone who mains a BLM and is clearing T5.

    It's about the Ancient Buckler. So for a long time everyone assumed that it dropped in T5 of the binding coil, even now this is still a possibility but unlikely. I say unlikely because after it was beaten for the first time about 5 weeks ago there have been a lot of groups to down twin (my best guess is probably an average of 2-3 groups per server). Now considering that it would only drop from one of the two chests at the end, which have 9 confirmed drops already, means every clear would have a 1/10 chance of dropping it.That means if there are 3 groups per server that cleared it, starting about 3 weeks ago, there should be about 15 of them out in the world but no one has seen it. I'd think it's fairly safe to say at this point that it's not there, which begs the question where is it. If it's somewhere that no player has been able to find then that's incredibly strange considering the only place to get ilvl 90 equips at the moment is in the binding coil, and if it's not in the game then that raises the question of "Why?".

    The Allagan Scepter is the weapon that will be increased to ilvl 95 for black mages.
    It's a one handed weapon which means you need an off hand to make it as effective as a 2 hand weapon. The only problem with that situation is that the only high lvl off hand available (at the moment) to black mages is the Darksteel Buckler which is ilvl 70. Now since PLD is the only other class that needs an off hand I'm going to compare them (it may not be the best comparison but it's the only one i have). PLD is getting their weapon increased to ilvl 95 as well with everyone in 2.1, but imagine if in order to equip it they needed to equip a ilvl 70 crafted shield instead of their ilvl 90 one. This is basically what is happening to BLM here. We're getting an increase to our weapon but at the same time have to take a decrease in int because of it(we may not get an actual decrease depending on how much int the weapon gains going from ilvl 90 to 95, the point is that every other class just gets whatever that buffed value is as an increase rather than having to make up for a sub-par equip).

    So now that I've got my rants out of the way for "where is it" and, "why does BLM get screwed"(trust me I know those are horrible names for my rants). I'd like to talk about possible ways to fix these problems. For the most part I can see three ways that SE could handle this:

    1. SE says woops that totally should have been in the coil drops sorry.
    - I'd be fine with this, even though it sucks having to miss it for a couple weeks it'd be nice to know where it is.

    2. SE decides that the ilvl 90 weapon for BLM from extreme modes is going to be 1-hand and compleating the quest will give you that weapon as well as the ancient buckler.
    - I'd be fine with this as well, it would be an interesting way to go and you wouldn't have to do coil every week hoping for it to drop, you'd just get it from a somewhat challenging quest.

    3. In 2.1 there is still no way to get an ilvl 90 shield but there is an ilvl 80 one that drops in CT.
    - This is something that I would not be happy about considering it dosn't solve the problem of BLM taking a hit to their main stat whereas every other class just gets a strait increase from their weapon.


    TL;DR; Dev's please give us black mages a way to get an ilvl 90 shield in 2.1, I'll feel pretty lonely without one.
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    obviously it's a 1% chance from the coffer in turn 3! ;3
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    Wait....has nobody figured out where to get this weapon?
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    Zyxt Fair
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    BLMs got the shortest end of the stick for Coil Weapons.
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    Nope it's in the database but there is no place in the game that you can get it to drop.
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    You mean the item without "Allagan" in its name doesn't drop from coil?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Reiterpallasch View Post
    You mean the item without "Allagan" in its name doesn't drop from coil?

    Trying to be funny? Please follow basic logic before trying to mock, ty.

    Please follow logic:
    1: Item shows up in database = it is in the game currently
    2: currently only coil drops ilvl 90 items
    3: shield = ilvl 90 = should be in coil
    4: shield cannot be found in coil
    i: out of the many weeks of clearing T1-5, NOT ONE IS FOUND

    so we have an item that is suppose to be in the game but cannot be found.
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    Last edited by Aairis; 12-03-2013 at 04:44 PM.

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    to be serious though there probably shouldn't be any 1 handed weapons in the game as it currently is.

    Like why does paladin need 2 items where every other class needs 1? and why does thaumaturge and conjurer occasionally need 2 instead of 1 when there aren't really enough caster shield's to go around to begin with.

    Why not "sword and shield" and "scepter and buckler"? It's not like it even matters once you get to the ilvl 55+ shields the differences between bucklers and tower shields just vanishes anyways and the primary stats on a 1h+offhand is the exact same as a 2h of same level so there's no point in doing the extra work for it
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    Player Reiterpallasch's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aairis View Post
    Trying to be funny? Please follow basic logic before trying to mock, ty.

    Please follow logic:
    1: Item shows up in database = it is in the game currently
    Except for 2 shields, multiple minions, novice level tools, BLM chocobo barding (which is a not yet implemented vet reward), and various other items, sure.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aairis View Post
    Trying to be funny? Please follow basic logic before trying to mock, ty.

    Please follow logic:
    1: Item shows up in database = it is in the game currently
    2: currently only coil drops ilvl 90 items
    3: shield = ilvl 90 = should be in coil
    4: shield cannot be found in coil
    i: out of the many weeks of clearing T1-5, NOT ONE IS FOUND

    so we have an item that is suppose to be in the game but cannot be found.
    And who is to say that its not going to be something that comes from extreme primals? From what I heard, allagan equipment was in the game before BC was there. So, while I do follow your logic, people should feel entitled to an item that is "supposed" to be there and is obviously not. Wait for new content to see what we get first.

    Quote Originally Posted by Reiterpallasch View Post
    You mean the item without "Allagan" in its name doesn't drop from coil?

    I laughed pretty hard.
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