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  1. #111
    Player
    Airikay's Avatar
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    Ineb Yakiria
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    Diabolos
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    White Mage Lv 60
    I just dislike if armor iLVL is changed half way through. I wouldn't mind if in future coil was always half a tier higher, but I feel bosses should drop armor tokens then. The accessories and weapon can still be random drops, but the 5 main armor pieces should be token drops from Coil bosses that can be exchanged for the gear instead of everything being all RNG. Hoping for now its just the weapon getting buffed since Relic isn't special anymore.
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  2. #112
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    hyko's Avatar
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    Zartis Starnova
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    Behemoth
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    Bard Lv 60
    I personally like the change if it is indeed for all gear. People have already commented on how they passed on Allagan drops because they weren't BiS. This in my opinion should never happen for the hardest content in a game. You should feel rewarded for doing this content rather than just disappointed by the drops since they already bought the myth piece equivalent.

    If you aren't excited about the possible drops from the dungeon, it takes a lot of the enjoyment out of it.
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  3. #113
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    zdub303's Avatar
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    Zahra Dubs
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    Coeurl
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    Gladiator Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by hyko View Post
    If you aren't excited about the possible drops from the dungeon, it takes a lot of the enjoyment out of it.
    Agree 100%, there should always be something to look forward too. If myth = allagan, the moment you have the mix of both you want there is nothing left to look forward to. I know several people who are already full i90, not full allagan mind you, but full i90. With allagan going to i95, at least those people will have a chance to go for full i95 while we wait for 2.2.
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  4. #114
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    YarozeX's Avatar
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    Kana Reith
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    Gilgamesh
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    Gladiator Lv 60
    I will greed roll something if I can wear it but its not BiS. How I got my Allagan Legs today.
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  5. #115
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    AjoraOak's Avatar
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    Illythia Loves
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    Cactuar
    Main Class
    Arcanist Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by hyko View Post
    I personally like the change if it is indeed for all gear. People have already commented on how they passed on Allagan drops because they weren't BiS. This in my opinion should never happen for the hardest content in a game. You should feel rewarded for doing this content rather than just disappointed by the drops since they already bought the myth piece equivalent.

    If you aren't excited about the possible drops from the dungeon, it takes a lot of the enjoyment out of it.
    While that's true... if there's nothing considered BiS it means everything is pretty mindless in gearing. BiS is determined by the best equip for the stats you need to always hit/give you the most mitigation or dmg :/, only bard/sch varies since they benefit more greatly from crit.
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    Last edited by AjoraOak; 11-23-2013 at 04:23 AM.

  6. #116
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    Fiddlestax's Avatar
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    Fiddlestax White
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    Coeurl
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    Conjurer Lv 50
    This is a back door melee buff and is a change that should not be made until they fix the drop rates of some items.

    Every BC group is almost REQUIRED to have 2 tanks and 2 healers. Each of these two roles shares drops within 2 classes (WAR/PAL)/(SCH/WHM)

    Melee classes and bards however, have no one else to compete against on loot. Additionally they have had a great many months of having a very poorly designed Turn 1 chest work in their favor. If the drop rates are equivalent across all items then, on average, the melee dps will have higher iLvL gear than even caster DPS(Who also share drops) and much higher than healers and tanks. This is a poor design feature. Everyone involved should have an equal chance of getting their drops.

    There are a number of ways to solve this. First off, Accessories should be shared across DRG/MNK for sure. As the classes value different stats, the changes should be on the LEFT SIDE gear. I still can't believe SE split the accessories.
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  7. #117
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    Babydoll's Avatar
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    Cesil Rapture
    World
    Sargatanas
    Main Class
    Arcanist Lv 90
    I have a feeling if Yoshida himself said weapons, then its weapons only. I hope this is the case...it makes me sad to see AF obsolete. At the same time though...yeah stuff that comes from the hardest content should be the best.
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  8. #118
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    Seijuro Hiko
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    Ragnarok
    Main Class
    Archer Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Teon View Post
    Ye, luckly.
    Wait, so all the hassle getting a relic is a pure waste of time, running titan hm quadrillion times, when just a simple lucky roll of last chest will give us a better weapon?
    try enterring CoB with someone that did'nt beat Titan HM (you cant)
    try killing CoB bosses with i70 weapons
    and if titan is an "hassle you had to run quadrillion times" you're not close to see the coffer that drop better weapon

    Quote Originally Posted by Ryios View Post
    Yes, really. AF Class armor should always be the best gear in the game. And it should be astronomically harder to acquire. Think World Of Warcraft Tier Gear, Tier 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8.... When I quit wow we were at Tier 8.5 and it was the BEST gear you could have. But you couldn't farm tokens for it.

    Tier Tokens dropped off bosses in Icecrown Citadel
    this is not WoW
    then just need to swap skin and names between alagan and "af1.5"!
    there is now way something you can get farming point in the easiest "end game" dungeons should be better than drops from the current hardest content

    and get used to the gear you worked hard to get being replaced, it will happen every 1 or2 update

    only valide complain is people who passed Allagan because it was not BiS
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    Last edited by Hik0; 11-23-2013 at 04:29 AM.

  9. #119
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    Fiddlestax White
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    Coeurl
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    Conjurer Lv 50
    Additionally, Tank and healer loot should have a higher drop rate. They make up 50% of the group for every group. I am sure it is possible to solo heal a turn or 1 tank something, but I can only see that happening if people are way overgeared... making the point irrelevant.

    Dragoons and monks could share the same armor as well. Add in a dragoon trait that gives a % higher armor for leatherish armor.

    Or you can add different WAR/PLD + WHM/SCH gear as well.... Nah, that would be very poor design... Just as silly as the way they set up physical DPS drops. On average physical DPS will end up being the most geared. It should be random. Changing allagan to Ilvl 95 will only serve to make melee stronger (In addition to the buffs they are already getting). 2.1 is the melee patch.
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  10. #120
    Community Rep Camate's Avatar
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    Greetings,

    According to the stream, Yoshida did in fact mention this upgrade to item level 95 was to be for Allagan weapons only due to the difficulty of turn 5, whereas the text on the Japanese and English Q&A post indicated equipment in general. Just to be certain, we will double check with Yoshi-P and let you know for sure.
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    Devin "Camate" Casadey - Community Team

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