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  1. #21
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    My stone skin gives me 600 HP or so. Haha I use it all the time when tanking. Helps out the healers immensely.
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  2. #22
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    Gooner_iBluAirJGR's Avatar
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    Rosenthal Hogire
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    Quote Originally Posted by Makeda View Post
    The tank job with self healing is called Warrior.

    Everybody gets something, in exchange for not having something else.
    Bloodbath is the OP self healing.
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  3. #23
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    Choyi Baeldurn
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    In order to let paladin have a more potent cure (cure II as in your example) they woul probably have to be nerfed in mitignation to compensate, like loose out on some dmg reduction from of Shield Oath or similar change.
    I'm pretty sure no one would be happy with that tradeoff, I sure wouldn't be.

    Warrior is the tank class that is balanced around self healing, and even that isn't realy working out as well as in theory atm, and SE have already announced its being looked into.

    Paladin tanks trough rotating defensive cooldowns and having extra damage reduction trough a self buff, if you want to "heal" yourself as a PLD then Stoneskin is a useable option for many figths, if not use your MP on casting Flash.
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    Kaguya Houraisan
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    Quote Originally Posted by Makeda View Post
    The tank job with self healing is called Warrior.

    Everybody gets something, in exchange for not having something else.
    I want to cast Cure and Esuna and Raise on others, though.

    You know, being more than a stun bot on some occasions...
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  5. #25
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ri_ri View Post
    I want to cast Cure and Esuna and Raise on others, though.

    You know, being more than a stun bot on some occasions...
    Most fights that require timed stuns to interrupt can be done by the very same PLD who MTs, granted they know the timings and the fight well enough, practice and you will see it is not that hard.
    Only fight where there isn't a set in stone pattern would be chimera, and even then there is plenty of windows in between(besides you can't chain stun due to DR anyways) the abilites being cast.

    Even easier if you OT, theres no excuse not to contribute to damage with combos in between interupts.
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    Molly Millions
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    Quote Originally Posted by Blazer View Post
    Take your whm to 36 (?) and get stoneskin. Spam stoneskin rather than cure.
    A PLD should never be casting stoneskin, it's a waste of time, just like cure.
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    I think Paladins need a DPS boost too. I think it’s a bit silly that you have to rely on other players in an MMORPG.
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  8. #28
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    Quote Originally Posted by Molly_Millions View Post
    A PLD should never be casting stoneskin, it's a waste of time, just like cure.
    While Cure is a total waste of time and MP, and should't be crossclassed, a self casted Stoneskin is a 600dmg absorb that sometimes can make the difference between life and death, but this doesn't realy come into play until some fights much later into the game.

    It definatly is very situational but Stoneskin on a PLD definatly has a use, and there isn't like there are much anything else to bring for crossclass skills.
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    Jarlax Gennocide
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    Even Cure II would such unless you had high mind. It would be comparable to me casting it in cleric stance or worse. For the sake of easy math let's say Cure I does 200 , cure I I is about 1.5x the potency for 2x the MP so Cure II would heal 350 it's not the ability it's maim and mend II plus mind that make it heal so much.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Choyi View Post
    While Cure is a total waste of time and MP, and should't be crossclassed, a self casted Stoneskin is a 600dmg absorb that sometimes can make the difference between life and death, but this doesn't realy come into play until some fights much later into the game.

    It definatly is very situational but Stoneskin on a PLD definatly has a use, and there isn't like there are much anything else to bring for crossclass skills.
    Tbh, you'd be better off using one of the native PLD defensive cooldowns instead.
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