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  1. #1
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    Whitefall's Avatar
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    Ryorin Whitefall
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    Tonberry
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    GLADIATOR Lv 50

    Crafting 100% Success 100% HQ 2 Star Items

    Hi to all starting crafters who wants to guarantee yourselves a successful HQ 2 Star craft w/ out spending too much of materia setup and leveling more lvl 50 crafting class.

    Recommended Stats:
    347 Craftmanship / 340 Control / 370 CP (w/ +30 CP HQ Cawl Cennin)

    Recommended Materia Slots that wont cost too much for overmelding:
    Offhand (AF) - Craft +5 / CP +2
    Helm (AF) - Craft +3 / Ctrl+1 / Ctrl+1 / Ctrl+1
    Body (AF) - Craft +3 / Craft +3 / Ctrl+1 / Ctrl+1
    Gloves (AF) - Craft +3 / Ctrl+1 / Ctrl+1 / Ctrl+1
    Belt (Raptorskin's Merchant Purse) - Ctrl +3 / CP +2 / Craft +3 / CP +1
    Pants (AF) - Ctrl+1 / Ctrl+1 / Ctrl+1 / Ctrl+1
    Shoes (AF) - Ctrl+1 / Ctrl+1 / Ctrl+1 / Ctrl+1
    Necklace (Electrum Choker) - Ctrl +3 / CP +3 / Craft +3 / CP +1 / CP +1
    Earring (Red Coral Earrings) - Ctrl +3 / CP +3 / Craft +3 / CP +1 / CP +1
    Bracelet (Militia Wristlets) - Ctrl +3 / CP +3 / Ctrl +1 / Craft +3 / CP +1
    Ring 1 (Aetheryte Ring) - Ctrl +3 / CP +3 / Ctrl +1 / Craft +3 / CP +1
    Ring 2 (Aetheryte Ring) - Ctrl +3 / CP +3 / Ctrl +1 / Craft +3 / CP +1

    Note: It's fine to spend more on overmelding accesories and belt because it can be used for all crafting class. If you want more HQing boost for 40 Durability 2 Star Items, you can boost Control by melding AF gear starting w/ Ctrl+3 + Ctrl+2 + Required Craft or CP .

    Required Cross Class Skills for 40 Durability 2 Star Crafting:
    Lvl 50 Carpenter's Byregote's Blessing
    Lvl 37 Culinarian's Steady Hands II
    Lvl 15 Weaver's Careful Synthesis
    Lvl 15 Goldsmith's Manipulation
    Lvl 15 Blacksmith's Ingenuity
    Lvl 15 Culinarian's Hasty Touch

    Skill Rotation for 40 Durability 2 Star Crafting:
    Note: This skill rotation won't guarantee a 100% HQ. It needs luck w/ Hasty Touch and Good/Excellent Condition proc.
    "Inner Quiet"
    "Steady Hand II"
    "Waste Not"
    "Hasty Touch"
    "Hasty Touch"
    "Hasty Touch"
    "Hasty Touch"
    "Manipulation"
    "Steady Hand II"
    "Waste Not"
    "Hasty Touch"
    "Hasty Touch"
    "Hasty Touch"
    "Hasty Touch"
    "Steady Hand"
    (If you got Excellent Condition, use Byregot's Blessing)
    "Great Strides" note: No need to use Great Strides if you use Byregot's Blessing on an excellent condition after steady hand.
    (If you got Excellent Condition, use Byregot's Blessing)
    "Ingenuity" note: if you use Byregot's Blessing on an excellent condition after Great Strides, don't forget to use Ingenuity after.
    "Byregot's Blessing"
    "Careful Synthesis"
    "Careful Synthesis"
    Total CP cost: 370

    Note: This skill rotation will guarantee you a 100% crafting success but HQ percentage depends on your luck w/ "Hasty Touch" and Good/Excellent Condition proc. If you're unlucky and managed to craft a normal 40 Durability 2 Star Item, don't be sad because there's a skill rotation for 80 Durability 2 Star that will guarantee you a 100% Success 100% HQ w/ a normal 40 Durability 2 Star Item. Just make sure other cheap materials needed are HQ.

    Required Cross Class Skills for 80 Durability 2 Star Crafting:
    Lvl 50 Carpenter's Byregote's Blessing
    Lvl 37 Culinarian's Steady Hands II
    Lvl 15 Weaver's Careful Synthesis
    Lvl 15 Goldsmith's Manipulation
    Lvl 15 Blacksmith's Ingenuity
    Lvl 15 Culinarian's Hasty Touch - Not really needed but you can use it for free

    Skill Rotation for 80 Durability 2 Star Crafting:
    - "Inner Quiet"
    - "Steady Hand II"
    - "Basic Touch"
    - "Basic Touch"
    - "Basic Touch"
    - "Basic Touch"
    - "Basic Touch"
    - "Manipulation"
    - "Steady Hand"
    - "Standard Touch"
    - (If you got Excellent Condition, use Byregot's Blessing)
    - "Great Strides" note: No need to use Great Strides if you use Byregot's Blessing on an excellent condition after the Standard Touch.
    - (If you got Excellent Condition, use Byregot's Blessing)
    - "Ingenuity" note: if you use Byregot's Blessing on an excellent condition after Great Strides, don't forget to use Ingenuity after it.
    - "Byregot's Blessing"
    - "Standard Synthesis"
    - "Careful Synthesis"
    - "Careful Synthesis"
    Total CP cost: 370

    Note: The whole rotation will leave you 10 more durability and you can consume that by using "Hasty Touch" after "Inner Quiet". It's actually not needed but it's a free step so why not take it.


    Note: There are other materia setup and skill rotations out there that includes other high level cross class skills. I just want to minimize the cost of materia setup and number of crafting class that needs to be leveled up but still can guarantee a 2 Star HQ Item.
    _______________________________________________________________

    Thanks for Dorin for this rotation, I tested it and it might be the best skill rotation that utilize most of lvl 50 crafting skills. It also just required 359 CP.
    Quote Originally Posted by Dorin View Post
    Macro1
    /ac "Comfort Zone" <me>
    /wait 1.8
    /ac "Inner Quiet" <me>
    /wait 1.8
    /ac "Waste Not" <me>
    /wait 1.8
    /ac "Steady Hand II" <me>
    /wait 1.8
    /ac "Basic Touch" <me>
    /wait 2.5
    /ac "Basic Touch" <me>
    /wait 2.5
    /ac "Basic Touch" <me>
    /wait 2.5
    /ac "Basic Touch" <me>

    Macro2
    /ac "Basic Touch" <me>
    /wait 2.5
    /ac "Great Strides" <me>
    /wait 1.8
    /ac "Steady Hand" <me>
    /wait 1.8
    /ac "Standard Touch" <me>
    /wait 2.5
    /ac "Great Strides" <me>
    /wait 1.8
    /ac "Innovation" <me>

    IMPORTANT: If condition is Excellent use Macro4, if not continue with Macro3 - if you do Macro3 with an Excellent condition you won't get your 100% HQ.

    Macro3
    /ac "Ingenuity" <me>
    /wait 2.5
    /ac "Byregot's Blessing" <me>
    /wait 2.5

    /ac "Careful Synthesis II" <me>
    /wait 2.5
    /ac "Careful Synthesis II" <me>
    /wait 2.5
    /ac "Careful Synthesis II" <me>

    Macro4(Used only if condition is Excellent after Macro2)
    /ac "Byregot's Blessing" <me>
    /wait 2.5
    /ac "Ingenuity" <me>
    /wait 2.5

    /ac "Careful Synthesis II" <me>
    /wait 2.5
    /ac "Careful Synthesis II" <me>
    /wait 2.5
    /ac "Careful Synthesis II" <me>
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    Last edited by Whitefall; 10-31-2013 at 10:02 AM.

  2. #2
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    You'll get more with 4 ST > 5 BT, SH > SH2, and WN > Manipulation, for 3 less CP. Start off with a Comfort Zone and you can probably pull it off with 10CP NPC food instead of good crafted food. Not a huge deal since you are already at 100% quality, but for those will less CP and control it can be useful.

    Macro form requiring 348 CP:

    Quote Originally Posted by Macro1
    /ac "Comfort Zone"
    /wait 1.5
    /ac "Inner Quiet"
    /wait 1.5
    /ac "Steady Hand II"
    /wait 1.5
    /ac "Basic Touch"
    /wait 2.5
    /ac "Basic Touch"
    /wait 2.5
    /ac "Basic Touch"
    /wait 2.5
    /ac "Basic Touch"
    /wait 2.5
    /ac "Basic Touch"
    Quote Originally Posted by Macro2
    /ac "Manipulation"
    /wait 1.5
    /ac "Steady Hand II"
    /wait 1.5
    /ac "Basic Touch"
    /wait 2.5
    /ac "Basic Touch"
    /wait 2.5
    /ac "Ingenuity"
    "Great Strides" unless Excellent condition, in which case skip

    Quote Originally Posted by Macro3
    /ac "Byregot's Blessing"
    /wait 2.5
    /ac "Careful Synthesis II"
    /wait 2.5
    /ac "Careful Synthesis II"
    /wait 2.5
    /ac "Careful Synthesis II"
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  3. #3
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    Ryorin Whitefall
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    ^ Nice rotation you got there. I tried to craft a Vanya Gear again but this time I tried to minimize the use of high level cross class skills. I also use some steps from your rotation =D

    Here are the only cross class skills that I used to get 100% Success 100% HQ 2 Star Item w/ Normal Quality Vanya Silk and 2x High Quality Twinthread:
    Lvl 50 Carpenter's Byregote's
    Lvl 37 Culinarian's Steady Hands II
    Lvl 15 Weaver's Careful Synthesis
    Lvl 15 Goldsmith's Manipulation
    Lvl 15 Blacksmith's Ingenuity

    Skill Rotation:
    "Inner Quiet"
    "Steady Hand II"
    "Basic Touch"
    "Basic Touch"
    "Basic Touch"
    "Basic Touch"
    "Basic Touch"
    "Manipulation"
    "Steady Hand II"
    "Basic Touch"
    "Great Strides"
    "Ingenuity"
    "Byregot's Blessing"
    "Standard Synthesis"
    "Careful Synthesis"
    "Careful Synthesis"

    Total CP cost: 359
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    Last edited by Whitefall; 10-17-2013 at 01:31 PM.

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    What does "For All" exactly means?
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    GOLDSMITH Lv 50
    100% HQ with all NQ Materials - Requires 340Craft, 340Control and 359CP(Use food)

    Macro1
    /ac "Comfort Zone" <me>
    /wait 1.8
    /ac "Inner Quiet" <me>
    /wait 1.8
    /ac "Waste Not" <me>
    /wait 1.8
    /ac "Steady Hand II" <me>
    /wait 1.8
    /ac "Basic Touch" <me>
    /wait 2.5
    /ac "Basic Touch" <me>
    /wait 2.5
    /ac "Basic Touch" <me>
    /wait 2.5
    /ac "Basic Touch" <me>

    Macro2
    /ac "Basic Touch" <me>
    /wait 2.5
    /ac "Great Strides" <me>
    /wait 1.8
    /ac "Steady Hand" <me>
    /wait 1.8
    /ac "Standard Touch" <me>
    /wait 2.5
    /ac "Great Strides" <me>
    /wait 1.8
    /ac "Ingenuity" <me>

    IMPORTANT: If condition is Excellent use Macro4, if not continue with Macro3 - if you do Macro3 with an Excellent condition you won't get your 100% HQ.

    Macro3
    /ac "Innovation" <me>
    /wait 1.8
    /ac "Byregot's Blessing" <me>
    /wait 2.5
    /ac "Careful Synthesis II" <me>
    /wait 2.5
    /ac "Careful Synthesis II" <me>
    /wait 2.5
    /ac "Careful Synthesis II" <me>

    Macro4(Used only if condition is Excellent after Macro2)
    /ac "Byregot's Blessing" <me>
    /wait 2.5
    /ac "Careful Synthesis II" <me>
    /wait 2.5
    /ac "Careful Synthesis II" <me>
    /wait 2.5
    /ac "Careful Synthesis II" <me>
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    Last edited by Aphraell; 10-28-2013 at 08:12 AM.

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    Since it seems like this game likes to fail on 90%, rather than rewarding 10%....

    I'm a bit overly paranoid about NOT using Steady Hand.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Thorauku View Post
    What does "For All" exactly means?
    These aren't cross class skills. They are actions obtained by all classes at certain levels.

    Quote Originally Posted by Exphryl View Post
    Since it seems like this game likes to fail on 90%, rather than rewarding 10%....

    I'm a bit overly paranoid about NOT using Steady Hand.
    The best speculated guess I have been able to come up with is it changes algorithm according to your stage in the achievement log.
    Say you are looking at 80% on a tier 2 Synthesis, you will need to make 300 items to see the 80% number. If on the other hand you are looking for 80% in the i70 group you will need to make 3000 to see it work out to 80% as per the achievement system. So at i70 level of you are able to lock down 90% the algorithm can in theory fail you the first 300 times but then it will give you 2700 HQ items. When someone has 27,000 potash we could test that theory. See you in 200 years?

    To the OP's point, once you get the right combination of 50 abilities, HQ Vanya Silk will be an option. Finding your hidden Jobs in crafting is about marrying certain 50 action combinations. The more 50's you have, the more options you have.
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    Last edited by Ksenia; 10-17-2013 at 06:47 PM.

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    M'ete'leskum B'leskum
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    Quote Originally Posted by StouterTaru View Post
    Macro form requiring 348 CP:
    You know that decimals in wait commands in macro are not being used / are rounded up, right?

    Also - using macros on any 1 or 2 star recepies (or any other ones involving rare or expensive mats or items) is a bit risky as a small lag will cause fail on some steps resulting in possible craft fail. If you'd still prefer to use the macros in such situations I strongly recommend adding 1 sec to wait after each touch or synthesis and 2 seconds after each status changing action like Manipulation, Steady hand and so on. Better "waste" 16 - 20 seconds than loosing expensive mats and items ... Finally - using macros decreases the efficiency as you're unable to swap around basic and standard or advanced touches based on the current status (bad / normal / good / excellent) as you should indeed keep those corelated.
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    Last edited by HEC; 10-17-2013 at 10:06 PM.

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    Hermennes Cletrindale
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    What's your materia setup? I just want to know whether it's realistic or not for me/most people to get the kind of stats you have.
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    What's your set-up for 40 2 star hq? Because if you can hq 2 star recipe 40dura, I'm having difficulty understanding why you can't hq 2stsr 80 dura with all nq
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  11. 10-18-2013 03:36 AM
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    I was being dumb

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