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    Filenotfound's Avatar
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    Relics are too easy to get

    the relic+1 is the best weapon in game (better then majority of all coil weapons).

    Its a joke how easy they are to obtain...
    titan HM is like EXTREMELY EASY to do... im pretty sure my fc can likely 4-5 man it easily...

    my first victory on titan, entire pt was pretty much only geared in AK gear and with ifrit weapons...
    It was still easy back then. Just took alittle practice to learn the fight and rotation...

    this game is already WAY too easy...
    and ive heard that primals are getting nerfed? WHAT!?

    why dont u just make healers only have to use 1 skill to heal whole pt for full hp with infinite mana, make a 1 button to hold aggro on everything 100% as tank?
    if i wanted to play wow, id go play that...

    there should NOT be ANY nerfs to any difficulty in the game yet...
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    Not everyone is like you.
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    Add me to your party and carry me pls :3
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    Last edited by Rundas342; 10-12-2013 at 06:38 AM.

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    I'll admit relic +1 is just a time sync to get. However, the 'relic reborn' quest requires time and dedication. Granted, only the HM Titan battle is challenging, SE is simply catering to the majority instead of the minority. I personally think the difficulty is fine, too. But if the majority wants it easier, who am I to argue?

    Why do you care, anyways? You already beat him. They already said they aren't nerfing coil, and crystal tower won't come pre-nerfed. Just do those.

    I ran out of daily posts, but in response to:

    Quote Originally Posted by Sanca View Post
    Are you really saying Relic questline requires time and dedication? The quest takes 2 hours MAX with an FC party... Even if you're not in FC you can do it in a day... Except maybe Titan... Too many stupid people to pug that.

    BiS weapon should take at least a month of heavy playing to get.
    And you just pull the 900 tombs for the relic out of your butt? But hey, how long it should take to get BiS weapon is your opinion.

    Can't forget the 900 tombs for the +1, either. :| That's at least 3 weeks.
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    Last edited by Noahlimits; 10-12-2013 at 08:24 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Noahlimits View Post
    I'll admit relic +1 is just a time sync to get. However, the 'relic reborn' quest requires time and dedication. Granted, only the HM Titan battle is challenging, SE is simply catering to the majority instead of the minority. I personally think the difficulty is fine, too. But if the majority wants it easier, who am I to argue?

    Why do you care, anyways? You already beat him. They already said they aren't nerfing coil, and crystal tower won't come pre-nerfed. Just do those.
    funny they said same thing about titan not too long ago...
    Crystal tower = casual dungeon, so it wont be hard to begin with :/

    its only a matter of time before everything thats released will be nerfed (as now everyone will have relic, and get stuck at coil saying its impossible and they will spam for nerf), and then they will just make simple quests to get better gear then the hardest dungeons like wow...
    i feel this game will be worse then 1.0 within a month or 2
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    Quote Originally Posted by Filenotfound View Post

    its only a matter of time before everything thats released will be nerfed (as now everyone will have relic, and get stuck at coil saying its impossible and they will spam for nerf), and then they will just make simple quests to get better gear then the hardest dungeons like wow...
    Those are all assumptions. No game ever releases new end game content pre-nerfed. Even WoW, for the most part. They usually wait a period for all the hardcore players to experience at it's most difficult (in this instance, everyone got 1.5+ months to experience hard mode Titan. And by the time they DO nerf Coil, shouldn't you have completed it by then? Considering they fix Twintania. Why get mad about something that gets nerfed AFTER you had your 'hard' runs?
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    crystal tower casual? it's a 25 man dungeon.. what 25 man dungeon have you ever done that's casual? you and all your.. it's too easy, i'm super leetsauce.. blah ze blah guys can just go jump off a mountain.. o'doyle rules!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Noahlimits View Post
    However, the 'relic reborn' quest requires time and dedication.
    Wait, what?
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    Time and dedication, kid.
    Adults have a work and a social life and they usually come home late and have few hours to play.
    You want this game to be addressed only to students and unemployed people like XI used to be? just say so.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eiz View Post
    Time and dedication, child.
    Adults have a work and a social life and they usually come home late and have few hours to play.
    You want this game to be addressed only to students and unemployed people like XI used to be? just say so.
    I have full time employment, avid hobbies and a significant other. This doesn't mean I expect the hard content of the game to be tailored to me. If you cannot/willnot allocate time to learn and compelte hard content, why do you feel like it ought to be available to you?

    There is plenty of content in the game for more casual players (leveling, crafting, ifrit and garuda, dungeons, etc) who have smaller chunks of time to play. Also, if you set up a raid schedule for one or two nights a week, its not at all hard to chip away at harder stuff, esepcialy if your group is willing to research ahead of time (say during a break at work, stuck in the dmv, etc) rather than plowing ahead into the unknown like we did.

    There should also be rewards for those players that want to invest more time (1.0 luminarys, coils, relics, etc).



    OR: Introduce a nerfed version of the fight that will finish the relic quest, but the version you get is ilvl70. (Gives fusedore instead of Hyperfused ore yo). Casuals still get the shiny, "xcore yo" get teh slightly better shiny. Nerf could be the fight as it is, slightly less hp on heart (30%?) and rockslide doesn't do knock back. You still learn all the mechanics, but its much less damading and "laggy players" can't get knocked off. Any class can survive a single sand hit, so spreading out would make it possible to just heal through sands if theyr'e an issue.
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    Last edited by PiedPiper; 10-19-2013 at 03:23 AM.

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