I am ok if gear progression is gradual and anticipated, not fast and ruthless. I am casual that like to at least be able to smell top gear. If gear comes faster then a casual ability to at least keep up, that kills a lot of enjoyment for me (and I think a lot of others).
I wish I could defend Titan HM so that I can get my SMN relic.
Just can't find the right DF group to kill him (not asking for Titan HM to be nerf).
main issue seams to be the Heart phase (and once we fail 1st time someone always leaves).
What is the point in having Ifrit/Garuda/Titan weapons when it usually takes 5-10 runs of them to get your weapon, when you only have to do them once each to get your relic?
I started out as a brand new level 50, and I got my relic in two days of light playing, without even knowing how to obtain it beforehand. I ran dungeons to level to 50 so I had enough Tomes to get the materials to make myself a Vanya robe of Healing, so I had that as soon as I hit 50. I also made myself Erudite's healing book, and had multitudes of rank III materia waiting for me because I didn't know which it took, and I spiritbond a lot. I got one or two FC friends to help me out with Chimera, Hydra, Ifrit and Garuda, pugged the rest, and did that all in a day. Then I was told I need 3200+ health for Titan, so I joined a group for Garuda and got my Scholar's book the first try. I slotted one rank III Vitality materia into all my jewelry except my Neck piece because it was a dungeon drop, and has no materia slots. The next day I did Titan in a Pug.
95% of everything I did was done the same day I hit 50, and I ONLY got Garuda's weapon because it was a requirement for Titan. There was literally ZERO need to go for Ifrit's, and I sure as hell won't be going for Titan's unless I can find a really good farming group. After all that I farmed Ifrit because I really love the way the book looks, and my friend wanted his weapon for the looks as well, but that is the only reason I got it.
So yea, the Relic is WAY too easy to get. It make everything before it pointless to use. For Scholars/Summoners, what about the 2 star crafted weapons? What use do those have?
More posts throwing around the word "Easy" as if we're all full-time MMO junkies with nothing better to do. I guess something is wrong with the rest of us that actually find these fights challenging.
And if they're nerfing HM's...it's probably so they can scale the EXTREME modes (patch 2.1) appropriately. Left that bit out didn't you OP?
>>Has FC that can throw together competent (and probably geared parties) within a moment's notice for Chimera, hydra, Ifrit, and Garuda.
>>Got Scholar book on first attempt with Garuda
>>Says it's easy.
You're like the guy who goes through school with straight A's without studying, gets college paid for by the parents, then gets a job with his uncle's million dollar Fortune 100 company and says that "life is easy".
You realize that your journey to Relic is NOTHING like the majority?
-Most people don't have crafts at 50 that they can just make/buy their own end game gear. So they run Ifrit/dungeons/farm Tomes to gear up for the progressive Relic fights. I personally set a goal of at least obtaining Ifrit's weapon before I attempted Garuda. Guess what. Took me 30+ tries to even SEE the damn Cudgel. I wasn't handed my weapon by some badass lucky RNG like you were.
-Most people don't have FC's they can just snap their fingers at and have a full party ready and willing to go into those fights.
-Most people don't get their HM weapons on the first drop.
You need a reality check.
Last edited by Nichigo; 10-18-2013 at 02:35 AM.
After all that, there is STILL no need to try to get Titan's weapon, because after you beat him once, you have your relic. They made it too easy to obtain, without requiring lower item level gear. They made items that literally have zero purpose in the game, other than to show off the looks, or proof that you got it.
All players wish for the feeling of gratification that you get from successfully completing something difficult, why should only mediocre players feel this which is what will happen when everything is easy. Some people may feel good about winning a hollow victory, but I don't.
@ Titan being easy: The thing is, once you understand the fight, it really is. Titan is a great fight to motivate a FC to be built and get into progression. Even casual FC's should be able to learn and win the fight with a few 3 hour sessions. Is it as easy as garuda? No, garu can be done in 4 min where all the ranged dps and healers hardly ever take a step. Titan isn't quite that trivial. That said, he's not so hard as to warrant a nerf.
@ Relic bein easy: yeah, it is. Its silly that it takes longer to pay for it (earn 900 tomes) than do win all the fights for it. Really, the 900 point cost is the only reason i'm at 7/9 instead of 9/9.