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Yeah, but if you don't like any of the other jobs and they remove the job you do like then hey, there's no jobs you like anymore. I played SMN because it was the most engaging job in the game to me...

They'll come for you too one day. Just wait

Only thing that stands out is that somebody used an ascii character for question marks in their post. Phone should be able to display that though

The difference is that BLM has a reason to want to switch which spell they use. SMN has no reason to cast anything besides one specific spell and no rotational differences to even try besides...

I do. Once you've resolved a mechanic without prior fuckups you know what primal phase you should be in then. And as long as your party isn't over-complicating a mechanic, like most PF parties and...

A situation that happens once per fight at most.

Imagine rubbing in that you have 5 buttons.

I mean https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6r3T1X0OXIU

It's perfectly fine and valid to enjoy simple jobs. Hell if i want to heal I just do it on WHM despite SCH being right there. The problem is deciding that making a previously complex, or at least...

Because it had engaging gameplay, and bahamut/FBT felt like nice, giant burst phases we earned. Instead of doing the same thing every 15 seconds.

I also don't get how people think the DoTs got more complicated over time. In ARR we used to have Bio, Miasma, Shadow Flare, Miasma 2 (for aoe) and Thunder and each had to be cast individually. HW...

The rDPS difference isn't that drastic. The mean difference is within 100 dps since the phoenix buff, and peak performance has RDM at about 300 dps more than SMN.
Both are above MCH in each metric,...

Yoshi actually did mention that busy jobs should be doing more dps in that XIV radio he was on the other day and might buff a few for 6.08. He always contradicts himself on this point though. One...

The flaw with this logic is that for most old SMN mains, SMN was the only interesting job and playstyle option they had. If every other job was fairly boring for you, what option do you have when the...

I also agree that it failed and I don't trust the devs to add any meaningful changes in 7.0 after the last few reworks. BLM always gets good upgrades and QoL because it's Yoshi's main. MNK gets a...

My post is simply to warn others not to waste time arguing with a wall.

Yeah, that's basically always what I've been saying since launch. If you do not care about the particulars of playing a class and only how it looks and just play casually then you will definitely...

Here's the thing about Aveyond, they post in every single summoner thread dismissing any and all reasoning fans of the old SMN post and attempt to shit on them at the same time. If you don't open the...

SMN had the most DoTs in its lifetime in ARR, and you did not have a single button to apply them back then.

You have to have an active subscription to post on the forums, why would you have an alt account you don't play but pay to keep active?

SMN has never had one single identity over the entire history of FF as they almost always had another job class. In 5 you got to choose that sub job, in 3 there are actually two summoning jobs. The...

You should probably setup some macros for AM and put them on an "oh shit" crossbar. Assign one button to each party slot, make them muscle memory and then you don't have to worry about trying to...

The tl;dr is this. If you did not like old SMN for whatever reason, and do not main SMN currently. You probably enjoy playing it now. It's simple to play, easy to setup hotbars for and flashy and...

Despite the amount of posts they make in SMN threads, aveyond does not even have arcanist unlocked. And apparently hasn't played since 5.1 despite paying a sub to post, since they have two jobs at 80...

Unrelated to how the thread started, but I don't want to make yet another thread to ask this, but for anybody who has leveled SMN up from ARR levels now, did they change the job quest storyline and...