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  1. Just got invited to an S-rank, shouting and using...

    Just got invited to an S-rank, shouting and using 3 Hunt LS I barely got an invite, and when I did, it had 4 people. Spamming stone II and cures from 70% onward netted me 5 seals. Screw this system.
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  2. 2k dmg on 8 targets = 200 saved per target =...

    2k dmg on 8 targets = 200 saved per target = 1,600. And the duration can last for more than one move. A lustrate on a non tank player? 1,125. SS is the highest AoE eHP move in a SCHs arsenal, and one...
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  3. About to say, that looks like an exact copy/paste...

    About to say, that looks like an exact copy/paste of the Kraken in XI, which while they have identical mobs in XI (Colibri and such), the textures are updated.

    That being said, bring me those...
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  4. The only reason I find myself preferring WRPGs to...

    The only reason I find myself preferring WRPGs to JRPGs these days is there is faaaaar too much angst in JRPGs. That and for some reason, localisation on a lot of them is absolutely horrible, which...
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  5. I have never had Eos heal someone other than the...

    I have never had Eos heal someone other than the person I've targetted, and SCH can bust out WAY higher numbers than a WHM ever could for ST, both over the length of a fight, and in a single GCD....
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  6. Our Immortal Flames shall consume our enemies! We...

    Our Immortal Flames shall consume our enemies! We will sear their flesh and char their bones! And when they burn, they will beg our mercy... AND WE SHALL NAME IT'S PRICE!!!
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    Eh.... PvP balance in this game is horrible, I'd...

    Eh.... PvP balance in this game is horrible, I'd rather not get into that headache, or have to play an unbalanced job to succeed. There are much better PvP games out there if I want that. lol
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  8. SCH rocks single target damage and healing. WHM...

    SCH rocks single target damage and healing. WHM rocks AoE damage and healing.

    SCH has more shields and better MP/enmity management.

    WHM has magic defense rolled into protect.
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    The people making those arguments are arguing for...

    The people making those arguments are arguing for the sake of arguing. I refuse to believe people are unable to apply identical reasoning to multiple instances to that degree. If they can't apply...
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    You're arguing simply for the sake of arguing...

    You're arguing simply for the sake of arguing now.

    So out of morbid curiosity, how many previous FF titles must abilities and classes be in before they're considered standard-FF fare? I want your...
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    Steal is a huge branch onto itself, then there's...

    Steal is a huge branch onto itself, then there's yokodama and hate control. That's also excluding all of the MMO specific things they could add that's new like they've done for every job, as both...
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    The ability to play it at endgame, for the very...

    The ability to play it at endgame, for the very starters. Seems like many iconic Thief abilities won't be included. It's not the same if you've ever played previous FFs. Definitely nowhere near as...
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    I'm truly surprised you're still arguing with the...

    I'm truly surprised you're still arguing with the people who keep touting, "People who want thief just want a name change, herp derp."

    Isn't it obvious by now they're either ignorantly or...
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    Yet Rogue and Thief are the same because they're...

    Yet Rogue and Thief are the same because they're both agile, and that's OK. The hypocrisy in this thread is amusing.
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    Oh, cool, I stand corrected then. I didn't...

    Oh, cool, I stand corrected then. I didn't realize we would be able to play it at 50 without hindering ourselves with lower stats. I didn't know it had the iconic thief abilities. I didn't realize it...
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    And.... we're back to square one. The same half...

    And.... we're back to square one. The same half baked arguments that people have been explaining this entire thread. So since we've come full circle, now you're supposed to say, "It's just a name...
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    You may want to read the thread though. A job...

    You may want to read the thread though. A job stone (And benefits/stats that come with it), the iconic Thief AF and abilities, the associated lore like every other job, I mean, there's been tons. I'm...
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    He's saying you're trolling because it seems like...

    He's saying you're trolling because it seems like you are literally reading half of what people post, moving goal posts in your arguments and cherry picking what people are saying. It seems like...
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    Except it's a class and will likely have no...

    Except it's a class and will likely have no iconic Thief abilities. If we're arguing being in the same archtype let's go ahead and say Samurai shouldn't come since we have an eastern-style katana...
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    I guess that depends on how well you can read....

    I guess that depends on how well you can read. People want a thief, not a rogue, and they damn sure don't want it to be a class. Do you really not see why asking for one of the most common FF jobs...
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  21. Could be worse, he could have all but confirmed...

    Could be worse, he could have all but confirmed you're not getting Musketeer at all. Thief fans got that instead.
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    I'd put money on PUG. Of course, I would have put...

    I'd put money on PUG. Of course, I would have put money on ethics never being used as an argument for not including THF, so take it with a grain of salt.
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    I'd guess they'll introduce hybrid roles on an...

    I'd guess they'll introduce hybrid roles on an expansion or major patches, and they'll come then.
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    Comp Sci here, anyone who claims to know without...

    Comp Sci here, anyone who claims to know without knowing their current code is lying, as the first reply said. If you programmed the functions with that in mind it would be trivial, but when you have...
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    There are more than that, SW:TOR also uses...

    There are more than that, SW:TOR also uses assassin/shadow tanks. It can be done, for sure. I just want thief, they could make it any role they want as long as it's fun and useful.
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