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If I understand it correctly they are not only changing the lighting but also scaling issues, particularly some issues related to mouths, a major point of criticism. I don't know how far these...

Honestly, this alone would make me have so much respect for them (and I want to emphasise I do think very highly of this dev team, the benchmark hasn't changed this; I can dislike the results and...

Thank you very much, I think a megathread is a good idea! I don't know how detailed we should be but since you included the thread on face 2 for female raens I'm just linking the thread for face 4 of...

Yeah I'm sure in many cases the new feature is a good solution. I don't intend to say it's bad. I do think that there are very specific scenarios that might seem out there right now (or that I just...

I completely understand that! You should not endanger your account. I'm just glad to hear you could make that comparison to begin with. Since we'll get the new benchmark soon any feedback discussions...

I think people might be uncomfortable if stalkers can still track your moves and behaviours and draw conclusions (or make up false claims) based on that. Depending on the individual cases some...

I would love to see those too if it's not too much trouble. It would be really helpful!

We will have to agree to disagree.

It is interesting that you portray people feeling patronised as "interpreting it that way" when you do quite a bit of interpreting when it comes to others'...

I'm not saying lighting has absolutely no influence on certain changes. Lighting is of course very powerful and I don't mean to dismiss that at all. But over the course of this discussion "you just...

Some people have given successful feedback by using translators it seems. Apparently even google translate does an ok job in that regard. I don't know how well it works personally but apparently some...

I'm sorry but this is incredibly disingenuous and simply warps a lot of what has been said.

1. Many people have tried many things. Shaders, lighting, different angles etc. etc. "Stop trying to...

I'm very happy to hear this and I am looking forward to the new benchmark version. I'm curious to see how many of the issues were caused by the errors mentioned in the post. With the lighting and...

Something else I noticed about the eye brows is that the crease/fold above your eyes is a lot more visible in the EW image and the shadow under your eye brows/in your eye socket is a lot darker,...

Also completely agree with that one. When you learn to draw you spent a considerable amount of time on learning just to see.
Sometimes you don't draw at all but instead spend time on lengthy visual...

I completely agree with this.

Also, we've seen that just pointing at things in MSPaint still doesn't always get the point across, but precisely drawing in what is wrong is a lot more difficult...

But that is one of the primary points of contention. The homogenization of the existing face options (e.g., au ra females all becoming relatively similar and cute-ish) and objective changes to...

I love femhroths. I agree they could give us even beastlier options. That would be very cool. But as a baseline they already look really good imo. They are a lot better than what I feared they would...

I wanted to write down one or two thoughts on why I think reddit's way of presenting and engaging with content leads to a different way of approaching things but then it spiraled out of control so...

I was thinking about this the whole time because when I saw the DT trailer long before the arrival of the benchmark I thought I was going insane. To me his facial features in the CG trailer looked so...

Thank you very much!

I actually completely agree. This is why I'm clinging so hard to the tiny bit of edge that's offered in face 4, haha. Because now even this pathetic hint of severity is gone.

Please infiltrate...

That is a very good point and I'd say (in an ideal world where it would be possible): don't put away with old options but keep the new ones too. Like this players who prefer their old look are happy...

The eye brows are fine actually. I agree that they in particular are the same. So I need to clarify again: I did exaggerate the features based on the "soul" of the sum of the face, if that makes...

But that's the point. I don't try to argue anything objective here. If you want a more objective comparison of the features I've done that here.

The point is to illustrate how I perceive my...

No I see what you mean haha. Female au ras were unfortunately always on the milque-toast side as opposed to male au ras but face 4 did have a bit more bite. I think the smaller pupil and the more...