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no data i have seen suggests war has a higher crit rate than any other class. no data I have personally collected has shown this.

I average about 10% crit rate without defiance. this is base crit...

except you continue to ignore the fundamental problem. you're using gear as a crutch.

no other class has to do this. gear unlocks potential. it's not supposed to be a magic bullet. 'hey! I hit...

So many things wrong with the logic here. I don't know where to begin.

If you found something that works for you and your group, excellent. don't presume to 'educate' other people though. Looking...

I disagree. unless you are with a pre-made group of people you trust, you absolutely should stay in defiance.

the extra HP gives you breathing room. if things go south, you can solo a good...

It was a fair response. you just don't like it because it's not what you want to hear, and i flavored it with some sarcasm. I'm not hear to hold your hand or make you fee better. If anything, i'm...

It's far too risky to follow the first Mountainbuster with a double IB because he follows it up with stomps. your healer will soon begin spam healing the group, with Wrath V it makes the heals more...

Read the entire thread. he brought it up first.

so...the only thing I got out of that is that you're mad because you can't solo tank everything because your little combo gets interrupted....

There aren't many reasons to choose war over pld. and that's part of the problem. like seriously, any idiot can play pld. it's not hard at all. in the hands of a truly skilled player paladin is an...

It's been tried.

You're forgetting something fundamental.

Better gear it intended to make you better. it raises the bar of your potential.

gear does not make you good.

If you need gear...

When did war come up?

WAR is completely irrelevant to this discussion. There are still, literally, 0 things wrong with PLD right now. PLD is still well balanced. It still scales will all content....

There are literally 0 things wrong with PLD right now. it's well balanced. scales well with all content. can be used in almost any situation.

Why are you asking for a buff? it doesn't need it....

There are a couple of fundamental flaws here.

You almost never want to use IB every time it is up. Wrath V is the most important thing for a WAR to be viable. Not only does it increase your Crit...

Well, Keep enjoying being completely inefficient I guess. If you are able to be barely viable while using gear as a crutch, more power to you.

which is why i said in the long run i'm finding SP to make a difference. while marginal, it's still something. agaisnt trash, it's not useful. but against bosses



I've found SC useful...

stacking SkSp shouldn't be required to be effective. even if you can get two BBs off in the span of a single SE, why would you? you'll be missing the SE debuff for another 4-5 seconds while you...

the data you provided doesn't support this, when put side-by-side the other data provided in this thread. It doesn't match my data. in fact i'm barely in full darklight and we put out similar DPS...

Someone doesn't know how statistics work.

How many attacks do you think you get off in an average boss fight? in a 10min fight with 2.5s GCD you can get a maximum of 240 attacks. margin of...

why? because the calculator is wrong...that's why. it's off by 4% >.>;; is it really that hard to figure out?

I trust data I collect only. unless you show me all the parsing data you have to show...

Just curious if anyone has tested the effect of MND on flash. it's white magic, and white magic is generally affected by MND.

this would help explain why flash is so pisspoor on WAR.

This is a basic lack of understanding of game mechanics.


Base crit rate is 10%. Wrath gives 2% crit per stack. so Wrath V gives 10% crit. which is *gasp* twice the default.

really? you make...

You're missing the point of this thread entirely. it's not about how good can you make a war now. it's how do we bridge the gap between war and pld. having better gear than a paladin isn't the answer...

And after it splits? this isn't main tanking it's co-tanking. there is a diffrence.

again, co-tanking

Last i checked, you don't maintank adds. you off tank adds.

Why would you get rid of Steel Cyclone and not Holmgang?

Warrior does need major Quality of Life adjustments.

Where is this magical gear that is optimized for WAR then? What's that? I have to spend millions of gil worth of tomes to make gear that will make me barely viable?

If the problem is really we...

There's something fundamentally wrong when people white knight. Most of these people have no idea what 'good design' really means. or even where to begin at testing a design.

As with most things,...