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What a god. A gentleperson. A legend. A saint. A blessing. Give this person a raise.

Objectively, yes it's weak. Subjectively, you'll find a lot of people defending it with reasoning that often boils down to "I'm happy with it so it's not weaker than the others."

Also objectively...

Both are bad. Role is better in concept, worse in implementation. The skills moved to role should have at least stayed native on the classes they were removed from, and removing skills was a...

Hey so either I've missed something incredibly big or this is straight up wrong dude and I'd like some elaboration on what led you to this conclusion.

Are we just ignoring the part where the comment is worth your attention to bicker about apparently. Because your opinion about his opinion didn't have to be here either.

And now I join this...

Not on cooldown. Basically you'll wind up using it in two circumstances:

1. Twice when Inner Release is up

2. Depending on the fight you might use it twice in-between a berserk to level out...

Selectable role skills when there's only five that matter at any given time are such a waste of time ;;

What was even the point of the new system? I was happier before. I would have been happier...

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Wait you weren't joking?

The ideal we're aiming for is that all of the three have at least roughly equal usefulness in different scenarios. Frankly, drk/war being better for farm and pld/not pld for prog would be perfectly...

I don't have anything to actually add here, since I've more or less given up on getting through to people who don't seem to realize that it's a pretty far from perfect situation for non-Paladins, but...

Absolutely agreed. I don't know that it's actually a problem that our gameplay is, relatively, high risk high reward compared to the other tanks. Variation in gameplay and skill floors is fine and...

Well... it's kind of the point. This is a thread for Warriors who are unhappy with how it currently is. Not for Paladins to be unhappy with Warriors who are unhappy. Like... that's the topic.

To the point of "what would I like"- I've said it in other threads too, but ultimately I don't actually care. Kind of.

My issue is largely that I want -some kind of identity- that isn't "2~3% dps...

I do want to underline that most of us who have been complaining the most frequently about warrior have been complaining about dark Knight too. It's not an either or argument, but we're probably...

Absolutely granted. But being tuned in a vacuum doesn't really solve the issue of all contents not being in said vacuum.

Because no one wants to play it of course. Warrior provides nothing unique compared to a Paladin except for the fact that it's not a Paladin. Warriors are -not- doing more dps than Paladins. It's...

If... you go down the list you'll see the trends. "Warrior and Paladin are about the same dps-wise"



I've never had that issue... No idea.

Sorry buddy but you're absolutely right that the numbers don't lie. Warrior dps is only dubiously higher than pld at best- this can be seen in any relevant fight that exists right now. You'll often...

No.

Across the board it's almost identical to pld.

o1s top 4 are Warriors, yes(with #1 having a bizzare 100 dps over #2), but #2 to #7 are all within 50 dps of one another and overall there are...

Why is this thread still alive & on top prior to me posting in it

There were actually rumors flying around way back when that Musketeer was going to be a tank.

That'd fulfill Yoshida's prophecy of (loosely quoted) "Now that most iconic FF jobs are in we can make...

On your way to becoming the meta

I'm so proud

Is this a meme.

Please don't nerf pld. Please DO buff war and drk.

Like the others said, Upheaval is basically more or less on cooldown. The rule of thumb there is: if berserk has LESS than 10s remaining on the cd, hold upheaval. The point of this is to always fit...