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It's good to look at each healer personal Rdps, but it's not the only data that needs to be looked into.
You can always kind of "cheat" the rdps by going with a healer that does all the healing, and...

Fun fact about the healer DPS, if you look into the last extension, on extremes, WHM was first dps with a little margin, SCH was 2sd and AST was last, each more or less 5-10% appart.
Then if you...

Well, i proposed to up the mitigation because it was supposed to be the primary role of the dome since ARR, and now every healer has the same damage reduction tool. (where SCH had an advantage in...

SS also has a regen AoE now, with 100 potency regen, which mean 500 potency heal AoE.
That's the point we're discussing.

Well, i would be fine if SS was 15% reduction, 20% would feel too powerfull (or would need an increased cooldown)

CU should be imo:
noct => 10% reduction
Diurnal => 80 regen potency
Both: 5-8%...

Hello,
I've been wondering for a while about it, and i cant figure it out:
Before ShadowBringers, collective unconscious was a real powerhouse of healing, you could 'potencialy' keep it up for...

Asylum is the one you think off, which increase healing received.
And, if you want to compare both, even if it cost an aetherflux, you can only use them for healing spells now, and the most...

remember when there was a 100+ page subject about WHM lillies being useless in stormblood, and it still stayed useless for a whole extension? (the update just made us able to have more useless...

"better at everything over the other two healers" is quite the over statement.

In this extension, the only thing WHM gained was dps in various forms (afflatus arent really "new" spells, more like...

i don't know if it needs to be this high, but keep in mind that WHM has always had the best base dps, when he doesnt have to heal or move, and he always loses a lot more than both other healers when...

Earthly star cooldown is 60s, and the 10s needed for max potency are inside the cooldown. The highest potency aoe heal is CU which has 90s cooldown, for 750 potency on everyone and up to 1200 if...

Even if i'm sad that ast cannot remove the royal road buff anymore (neither the card kept on the side), i'm pretty sure if it was possible, sleeve draw would have to be nerf to compensate the buff....

what you must remember about it is mostly that they arent influenced by any modifier.
If a target has "receive 90% less healing", or you have "your heals does 90% less", the abilities will still do...

Remember that its both a downside and a bonus.
In thordan you can heal when -90% healing with asylum/assize/indom/lustrate/collective unconscious etc... for example, same for Ramuh mechanics

erm, no? Indom, Lustrate, excog, and every off gcd arent influenced by either healing boost or healing debuff, regardless of who got it. That's pretty much why a lustrate on a WAR with defiance will...

The thing i dont get is, sch since ARR was always kinda the "secondary healer", and that didnt bother anyone, in any situation outside sch+sch, the one that would do the most healing would be either...

You missed my point on eos, i meant that "fey illumination" is only usable when using "eos", therefore "eos only", as dissipation is only accessible by killing a fairy. (i wasnt refering to the skill...

Erm, how do you see the divine seal going to 20%, or the loss of SS, or the loss of several mp management passives of WHM (medica, cure III, esuna), as buffs? (and other stuff, the list can go on...)...

just gonna quote myself from 20 pages ago about reverse, which imo wouldnt be a stance but a buff.

There is also the possibility of keeping the WHM "pure healer" ability with a skill that could allow him to dps with his heals:

Conversion: Allow yourself to target ennemies with your healing...

just add a spell that converts heal spells into damage and we're good with the lillies.

Reverse: For 15s, you can target ennemies with your healing spell (cure, cure II, cure III, medica II,...

i was comparing a whole mechanic (lillies), with 1/6th of another (cards).
And i'm comparing 2ogcd of ast against 10 gcd of WHM (which is indeed unfair for the whm, cause he need way more stuff to...

The difference between lillies and cards (i dont agree with your rates, i see 10 cast for 3 lillies at 20.13% prob, and spear as 33% since draw+redraw doesnt have the same probs), is that you're...

as i said, even if you fully spam cure or cure II, you will still have a better chance of drawing spear than having 3 lillies up. and the effect of the lillies is only about one capacity (between 4),...

Tbh, lillies are just a spear card from AST with a bit reduction and way less effectivity.

Spear is 10-15% reduction on ALL spells for 30-70s (self), and you have about (draw + redraw) 1/3...