Legion...

[Dazusu]

I'm in love with it. Great addition to the game.

Tried it a few times with an old-school Einherjar-like setup + 2 tanks/support. Went pretty well, and will go better with some refinements to group setup (more BLM!)

What's so good about it?

• Not many temporary items.
• No Abyssites.
• No atma(cites)
• No leeches randomly entering

A group is about to go in full of BST & SMN, apparently they think it's Walk of Echoes. It's gonna be interesting to see how that turns out.

I await the "Legion is too hard" bitchery that will arrive in the next couple of hours with glee and delight.

[Karbuncle]

Sounds fun. Its going to be hard for all the kitties and Pink/White/Blue 99's, But i can imagine those with a glimmer of skill or intelligence will have little problem.

Personally, I'll be happy if the Enemies are the hardest part of legion, and the rewards are good and steady. I mean, symbolically speaking, You can punch me in the face as hard as you want so long as i get Ice cream after.

No temporary items.
No Abyssites.
No atma(cites)

You had me until this makes you sound like the stereotypical Abyssea butthurt guy who does nothing but sit at a computer complaining about "Back in my day FFXI was hard...!"(It wasn't).

Maybe thats not who you are, but thats what it makes you sound like. Show me I'm wrong please Why do you believe that those things are bad? I like Temporary Items as long as they don't over-due it... Even with them, They can make a hard fight (Botulus).

Temp items i think help people take care of themselves a little more. Spreads the responsibility around. Especially Potions.

[Dazusu]

and the rewards are good and steady. I mean,

We seen EXP scrolls & a scroll of Breakga.

[Yambo99]

This is right...

Ok First off, LOELEOELEOL at all the people who are about to QQ that legion is to hard.

Secondly thanks SE for putting some good old content that you need to think about and use a proper HNM strat.

For all you casual players i say one thing, Quit your job ok?

Watch old HNM video's, because you will need the brains to do this and not "Fanatics, Champions drink!!!!".

Oh ye and one more Thing, NO MORE PROC LOCK TROLLOELEOELEOELEL epic win etc!

As Charlie Sheen said, "WINNING!"

[Yambo99]

You had me until this makes you sound like the stereotypical Abyssea butthurt guy who does nothing but sit at a computer complaining about "Back in my day FFXI was hard...!"(It wasn't).

Maybe thats not who you are, but thats what it makes you sound like. Show me I'm wrong please Why do you believe that those things are bad? I like Temporary Items as long as they don't over-due it... Even with them, They can make a hard fight (Botulus).

Temp items i think help people take care of themselves a little more. Spreads the responsibility around. Especially Potions.

He's not Saying FFXI back in the day was hard. It's more the case of not any tom and jerry can do this with their eyes closed.

[Dazusu]

makes you sound like the stereotypical Abyssea butthurt guy

I said nothing about back in the day, and I was referring to Voidwatch as much as Abyssea (Where temporary items were over-done in both cases), though. I said for me personally it was an upside. You disagree, that's fine. No need to cry about it though.

[mattkoko]

so i keep seeing shouts for only relic/empy jobs to join legion. is that really the only option or is that person just being anal. i mean surely just because someone has empy/relic on, does not make them a good player. i'm just wondering. i mean i am working on empys now. but still. shouts like that bug me lol. i mean its ok if they completely suck at the job, but you got relic but no skills in that weapon? thats fine, come on down

[Dazusu]

so i keep seeing shouts for only relic/empy jobs to join legion.

Empy/Relics don't equal a win. It will help, but this requires strategy and teamwork to make good progress beyond the initial 3 mobs.

[Yambo99]

so i keep seeing shouts for only relic/empy jobs to join legion. is that really the only option or is that person just being anal. i mean surely just because someone has empy/relic on, does not make them a good player. i'm just wondering. i mean i am working on empys now. but still. shouts like that bug me lol. i mean its ok if they completely suck at the job, but you got relic but no skills in that weapon? thats fine, come on down

Just like you said pretty much Skill> gear as you see anyone with 10 empys and they know nothing about the job. The person shouting for emp/relic only is just being anal.

[mattkoko]

Thank you. I figured as much. I have just seen a few shouts like that since I came back. While I understand gear is important, I see plenty of empy/relic holders that completely suck. Anyway, I look forward to trying it out. Hopefully this weekend haha