[dev1017] Zanshin Attacks and chat log

[hiko]

just got one. will test it soon
trying to get earring too

[Ryozen]

Excellent. Thanks for doing the testing.

Edit: I'll try to do some testing on Ace's Mufflers tonight, when I'm on a less laggy connection.

[Ryozen]

Tested Ace's Mufflers last night:

7905 rounds with 10923 swings, missing 6295, and Zanshin activation accounting for 3018.

~47.94% activation rate, so Zanshin +3% or so on Ace's Mufflers.

[hiko]

fixed mistake I did in a previous test (didnt notice zanshin on hands)

grip only
# Missed First Attacks # DA w/Missed First Possible Zanshin %
--------- 4141 ---------------- 1990 ------------------- 48,06 %

=> 3%?

grip body hands back

# Missed First Attacks # DA w/Missed First Possible Zanshin %
------- 1681 ----------------------- 1118 ----------------- 66,51 %

45(jt)+3(grip)+10(body)+3(gloves)+5(back)

[Byrth]

Nice testing, guys! I've run the statistics on your results and the look legit. Most could be +/-1% of what you've decided on and the numbers would still work out, but the numbers you've picked do seem the best to me. Two other things you might be interested in:
http://wiki.bluegartr.com/bg/Atma_of_the_Solitary_One
http://wiki.bluegartr.com/bg/Atma_of_Hell%27s_Guardian

Other untested Zanshin gear (ffxiah search):
* Amir Korazin
* Bushido Cape
* Jing. Greatsword
* Jingang Hose (maybe matters)
* Mujin Necklace (maybe matters)
* Unkai Mimikazari (maybe matters)
* Domaru +1 (probably 5%)
* Hachiryu stuff

If you feel like it in the future, the equation for 95% confidence intervals of binomial distributions (like the one you have) is:
Width = 1.96*SQRT( (Zanshin %)*(1- Zanshin%)/(Number of Missed First Attacks) )

[Toren]

Something I would like to bring up. It doesn't say anywhere Hasso's Zanshin rate will be based on our Zanshin rate... it's very possible Hasso attacks may get a fixed Zanshin rate.

[Byrth]

Anything is possible until post-update, but I'd assume they would have said, "We're giving you Double Attack with Hasso up" instead of "We're letting Zanshin proc with Hasso up" if they had meant to totally dissociate it from Zanshin.

[hiko]

they said it was zanshin attack =
- set bonus can proc on new "extra attack
- ikishoten boost new extra attack tp gain
- kikugosaku can triple attack (normal attack, zanshin attack, zanshincc attack twice)

imo base zanshin rate on landed hit with hasso up will be lower than rate on miss (10% like DA base rate?), enhancement from gears will stay the same, HG will be fixed when they notice sam can get 100% DA

[Ryozen]

Anyone begun parsing the new rate? I won't have a chance for a few days, unfortunately. I'm pretty excited to see the results.

[Invasion]

Hasso's new Zanshin rate works independently and is significantly less than 45%, maybe 10-15% (Only had 5mins of parsing before I had to leave), so I would also presume any enhances Zanshin gear only applies if you missed to proc Zanshin.