Fell Cleave Options

[Kyrial]

So, quick question... working with what I have, what would be the better option for Fell Cleave... Ravager's Mask +1, or Varangian Helm? Both inside and outside of Abyssea.

Also, it occurs to me that I don't have any good WS pants for WAR? What are some nice options? (Not just for Fell Cleave.)

[Arcon]

There's not many great options for legs. I use Teutates Subligar normally, because whenever I play WAR my Attack is usually capped (at least on mobs I'd be using Fell Cleave on), both inside and outside Abyssea. Hachiryu Haidate would be best, although not exactly many of those to go around.

For head I'd go with Ravager's Mask +2, for the same reason, or Twilight Helm if you have it. Although if you did have it, I don't think you'd be asking this, so I'll be over there.

[Babekeke]

For head, go with the Varangian Helm over Ravager's +1. I'd still go with Varangian when you upgrade it to +2 since acc is very likely to be capped, double attack isn't worth it for AOE WS, and FC is purely STR based so the VIT doesn't offer anything. Crit +3% I'm not sure about though. This may or may not beat 4STR.

[Arcon]

For head, go with the Varangian Helm over Ravager's +1. I'd still go with Varangian when you upgrade it to +2 since acc is very likely to be capped, double attack isn't worth it for AOE WS, and FC is purely STR based so the VIT doesn't offer anything. Crit +3% I'm not sure about though. This may or may not beat 4STR.

This. Completely. I forgot that Varangian Helm also has STR on it, which makes my point moot.

Critical hit rate doesn't affect Fell Cleave, so that doesn't matter, and Acc should be capped on most things, both inside and outside of Abyssea. Fell Cleave has a very high STR mod, so you'll see big rewards from that, even when Attack isn't capped.

[Babekeke]

Critical hit rate doesn't affect Fell Cleave, so that doesn't matter

I didn't think it would but I didn't want to assume so. Thanks for confirming.

[Leonlionheart]

+2 > Twilight > Viking hat if only targeting one mob
Twilight > Viking hat > +2 if targeting a group since iirc DA can only hit the main mob (Although this may just be when using Warrior's Charge, in which case +2 is probably always better)

for legs +2 are better than teutates I'd say, because in my experience FC doesn't get an accuracy boost. Of course Hachiryu Haidate are optimal, and the WS DMG+2 trophy pants might even beat that if you're using VV (which you should unless you can keep up Mighty Strikes, in which case use Sanguine Scythe. It's not particularly hard to keep up Mighty Strikes either when Azure and Pearl is capped). Mighty Strikes does make FC crit, like all WS.

[Arcon]

for legs +2 are better than teutates I'd say, because in my experience FC doesn't get an accuracy boost.

It's hard to say, on current content my accuracy is capped on almost everything. Especially everything FC worthy.

Of course Hachiryu Haidate are optimal, and the WS DMG+2 trophy pants might even beat that if you're using VV (which you should unless you can keep up Mighty Strikes, in which case use Sanguine Scythe. It's not particularly hard to keep up Mighty Strikes either when Azure and Pearl is capped). Mighty Strikes does make FC crit, like all WS.

Does that hold true for AoE hits too? I never tried that actually, imo it's not worth getting chests when mobs die so soon anyway.

[Myrid]

Does that hold true for AoE hits too? I never tried that actually, imo it's not worth getting chests when mobs die so soon anyway.

Yes, using cleave while MS is active makes the forced crit apply to everything. When my friends and I get lazy in a cleave, I've taken to just spamming keys on every blue chest that drops and MS'ing when it's up.

[Leonlionheart]

It's hard to say, on current content my accuracy is capped on almost everything. Especially everything FC worthy.



Does that hold true for AoE hits too? I never tried that actually, imo it's not worth getting chests when mobs die so soon anyway.

Yes it does, and it is worth it when you kill them in 1 hit. Giving you much more time to find that ISL chest. FC does waaaaay more than RR when you mighty strikes and couple it with Warrior's Charge if you don't have Ukko's. RR caps at around 5.8k in my experiance and FC can do up to 6.5k with mighty strikes and TA proc.

[Arcon]

Yes it does, and it is worth it when you kill them in 1 hit. Giving you much more time to find that ISL chest. FC does waaaaay more than RR when you mighty strikes and couple it with Warrior's Charge if you don't have Ukko's. RR caps at around 5.8k in my experiance and FC can do up to 6.5k with mighty strikes and TA proc.

That's interesting, I didn't consider that. Although I'm guessing that's only in Abyssea, because of the high STR mod on Fell Cleave, and very low STR mod on Raging Rush (mods play a much higher role inside Abyssea). Outside I'm guessing it still beats Fell Cleave with Mighty Strikes up. King's Justice should be comparable, if not better, than Fell Cleave inside Abyssea (Mighty Strikes only).

Does TA from Atma override Warrior's Charge? I thought it didn't.