This thread became childish all of a sudden.
I think everyone is missing the point:
One answer to losing claim is to suck less. That might not be a viable option for newer groups, and those groups have a right to experience Abyssea content as well.
Also, we're not talking about one-time claims. We're talking about people that set up shop in front of nm ??? that use charm, with the specific intention of waiting for possible loss of claim to repeatedly, over and over and over again, steal people's mobs. Stop with the "so if I see a group wiping and I take their mob I'm cheating right?" analogies.
Also, can we get a moderator in here to remove all posts condoning botting? They're just troll food. I was there at king camps for 7-9 hours a day, and I didn't bot. I was afk until window watching anime or something, but those few seconds~ when window was open (or by our best approximate guess it was if we didn't have ToD for some reason), I was there spamming.
But here, check this out right, I'm going to give you my LS policy on claiming:
Unless it's a full wipe, we don't take others' mobs. It's their pop, their work and we respect that. If we feel a need to "teach them how to fight a mob", we do it after they have no chance of recovery, and then we offer them some of the drops. Instead of "teaching someone how to fight a mob", you should be taking lessons from us on how to be a human being.