hate cap raise.

[Alukat]

i know there are some threads about it, but sadly i can't find them atm.

the actual hate cap is really annoying and makes it almost impossible to play thf in the full efficient way.

We did KCNM 50 last night our setup was this:

WAR
PUP
WHM
RDM
THF
DNC

war was meleeing and using ws.then i used trick attack + mercy stroke on him.
after that i used sneak attack + mercy stroke.
then he was unable to get hate back neither with provoke nor with another trick attack + mercy stroke.

so pls raise the hate cap, or make provoke bypass the hate cap.i would really like to be able to sneak attack + mercy stroke all time on mobs which have some more hp!!

thx

[Catsby]

The enmity system is for level 75 cap. Back then monsters didn't have 100k HP and joedamagedealer didn't do 30k damage in a minute zerging because his healers had infinite mp. Caps don't need to be raised the entire system needs to be readjusted.

[Arcon]

The enmity system is for level 75 cap. Back then monsters didn't have 100k HP and joedamagedealer didn't do 30k damage in a minute zerging because his healers had infinite mp. Caps don't need to be raised the entire system needs to be readjusted.

Agreed. It isn't too hard to do either, apparently SE already revamped the enmity system before when it was needed. So no reason why they couldn't do it again. Hate cap raise wouldn't do much for it though.

[Atomic_Skull]

Give THF reverse a reverse collaborator that gives another party member 33% of your enmity and can exceed the enmity cap by 20%.

[Malamasala]

Easiest solution is of course to nerf everyones damage.

[Garota]

Hate Cap doesn't matter, every single damned NM has hate reset attacks... So it'd just be pointless... Let the BLMs tanks along with the WHMs...

[Atomic_Skull]

Hate Cap doesn't matter, every single damned NM has hate reset attacks... So it'd just be pointless... Let the BLMs tanks along with the WHMs...

It's only pointless if it's an AOE hate reset. Most are single target so you just have two tanks. e.g. that pixie in Grauburg that drops DRK seals who's name I can never remember.

[Camate]

We brought up the topic of hate issues with the development team and they shed some light on their current direction. They mentioned that if they were to simply increase the hate cap in general, there would be a high possibility that it would cause the balance to become worse than it is currently. If they went another route and increased the hate cap only for specific jobs, it would also be a large contributor to a collapse of game balance, so they do not have any plans of doing this.

Unfortunately, raising the hate cap is really not a proper means of solving this hard to solve problem. As a general direction, the development team will be focused on making adjustments so that each job can properly play their role. Ex: tanks can tank, healers can heal, etc.

[Atomic_Skull]

We brought up the topic of hate issues with the development team and they shed some light on their current direction. They mentioned that if they were to simply increase the hate cap in general, there would be a high possibility that it would cause the balance to become worse than it is currently. If they went another route and increased the hate cap only for specific jobs, it would also be a large contributor to a collapse of game balance, so they do not have any plans of doing this.

Unfortunately, raising the hate cap is really not a proper means of solving this hard to solve problem. As a general direction, the development team will be focused on making adjustments so that each job can properly play their role. Ex: tanks can tank, healers can heal, etc.

PLD is currently a useless job, without some way to hold hate against hate capped melees it may as well just be deleted from the game because no situation currently exists where you should ever bring a PLD over something else. Having a PLD in your party is quite literally a waste of a party slot.

[thefinalrune]

The only other solution, as far as I can figure, is to then do a big reduction in the enmity gain rate. Nerf down all enmity generating actions across the board. If you can't raise the cap, make it harder and more time consuming to get there.