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    Eccentric eve is the same tier NM in Khonschatat. It has 5 pop items. And the freaking fight is harder. But it's pop item NM's are either time spawned or just pop from one item. Chloris pop item NM's are also popped with drops from other nm's. So Chloris has an entire extra layer of NM's.

    I say just remove that lower tier entirely. Keep them in the game for their other drops, but don't have them drop anything for chloris pops. Then have the chloris pop NM's popped with items that drop off of normal monsters. Like every other zone!
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    You whinge about Chloris (when yes it does indeed suck), yet you say the Katana is easy in comparison? Sure maybe til you get to the final leg. I would pick Dragua over Apademak anyday.
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    Most that complain about certain emp trials just don't know wtf they are really doing, don't look at the next tiers etc.

    They are all pretty much balanced, but Kannagi is a pig on the last trial. I much prefered doing vere over kannagi, far far far easier.
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    Why not just double the +2 drops on NMs that need 4 KI's?
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    http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxi/th...-Magian-Trials
    Old topic, agree, disagree, SE doesn't care either way.
    Apademak is quicker to pop then Dragua due to the fact you can buy his pop set. Dagger and G Axe are the two weapons that get boned hardest probably.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Louispv View Post
    Eccentric eve is the same tier NM in Khonschatat. It has 5 pop items. And the freaking fight is harder. But it's pop item NM's are either time spawned or just pop from one item. Chloris pop item NM's are also popped with drops from other nm's. So Chloris has an entire extra layer of NM's.

    I say just remove that lower tier entirely. Keep them in the game for their other drops, but don't have them drop anything for chloris pops. Then have the chloris pop NM's popped with items that drop off of normal monsters. Like every other zone!
    EE is not the same tier NM as Chloris, it's the same tier as Lacovie or Hadhayosh. Kon's version of Chloris/glavoid/briar/cara is Fistule and Kukulkan.

    Quote Originally Posted by Runespider View Post
    Most that complain about certain emp trials just don't know wtf they are really doing, don't look at the next tiers etc.

    They are all pretty much balanced, but Kannagi is a pig on the last trial. I much prefered doing vere over kannagi, far far far easier.
    Most people that complain about Apademak have really sucky BLMs, or don't know how to stun long casting spells.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Leonlionheart View Post
    EE is not the same tier NM as Chloris, it's the same tier as Lacovie or Hadhayosh. Kon's version of Chloris/glavoid/briar/cara is Fistule and Kukulkan.
    No Kukulkhan is the zone boss like glavoid. (just like glavoid's item pops chloris, kukulkhan's pops eve.) Fistule is just up and about unpopped like lacovie.

    The problem comes with gangly gean, and raskovnic (pops every 15 mins), and clingy claire (popped with an item off normal malboros) are easy to pop. For Chloris, ophanim is popped with 3 other drops, Treble Noctules, is popped with 2 other drops, and hedetet is spawned with yet another 2 drops. Chloris has another entire layer of pop items no other zone has.
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