Is Black Mage recieving gimped gear/spells when compared to sch and pup

[Concerned4FFxi]

im concerned about why my blm af3+2 body has no int and the sch body seems to be a better nuking peice, with the right gear a sch or pup can go toe to toe with us and they are only one spell behind? Is that fair? I feel blm should have a seperate level tier of nuking sperlls, and im not just speaking of am3 which will probly cost an insane amount of mp.

[Meyi]

Magic Attack Bonus + 11 is beautiful. Magic Accuracy +11 is also beautiful.

[Bigboy]

im concerned about why my blm af3+2 body has no int and the sch body seems to be a better nuking peice, with the right gear a sch or pup can go toe to toe with us and they are only one spell behind? Is that fair? I feel blm should have a seperate level tier of nuking sperlls, and im not just speaking of am3 which will probly cost an insane amount of mp.

You might want to look at the gear you are comparing your BLM body to. I think you will find your complaints unfounded. With the equivalent level of gear, you should always be blowing away a SCH or PUP. There is no toe-to-toe aspect even worth mentioning.

There is something to be said for maintaining a certain amount of flexibility as a SCH in the process, but as far as sheer firepower goes, it's not even a contest.

[Kingofgeeks]

you're really complaining about INT? at a certain point INT losses its usefulness. Also keep in mind we are still level 90, not 99. We'll see where things go when we all hit that point

[Daniel_Hatcher]

you're really complaining about INT? at a certain point INT losses its usefulness. Also keep in mind we are still level 90, not 99. We'll see where things go when we all hit that point

With the MAB Atma and Gear I'm pretty sure INT is actually better than more MAB at the moment.

[Raksha]

EDIT: NVM

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[Kingofgeeks]

With the MAB Atma and Gear I'm pretty sure INT is actually better than more MAB at the moment.

If you can get your MAB total to 50% then yes, being able to get more INT would be helpful.

(assuming MAB caps at 50% like most other things in this game)

[Sargent]

In terms of SCH gear, it's quite the opposite. SCH has been known to get shafted on lots of mage gear, in particular, nuking gear (Note: Zenith, Eradicos). SCH also lacks a native MAB trait that BLM gets, the highest they can get is MAB2. Saying that, Ebuillience closes the gap, and no longer has as much of the recast issue as it did with 4 charges. Yes, it's kinda harsh SCH getting a better nuking +2 body then BLM, but to be fair, they get little love from nuke gear elsewhere.

As for PUP, idk anything about the job, but it does annoy me that PUP can outnuke a decently geared/meritted BLM.

[Yukichibi]

PUP can make a big nuke every minute because you have to wait for your deactivate timer for hate management, or every 40 seconds if not (water manoeuver + 3 ice manoeuver+ 10 sec casting time).
Nuking as a PUP is like making a BP as a SMN.
So maybe when PUP launch his spell, it ll make more damage than a BLM, but you could launch more spells during this time.

For SCH, BLM rip their ass with elemental celerity, which is almost a permanent alacrity.
Even if SCH would have access to the same nuking power as BLM (which is not the case), you cast quicker, and you can erase your enmity.

[Daniel_Hatcher]

PUP can make a big nuke every minute because you have to wait for your deactivate timer for hate management, or every 40 seconds if not (water manoeuver + 3 ice manoeuver+ 10 sec casting time).
Nuking as a PUP is like making a BP as a SMN.
So maybe when PUP launch his spell, it ll make more damage than a BLM, but you could launch more spells during this time.

For SCH, BLM rip their ass with elemental celerity, which is almost a permanent alacrity.
Even if SCH would have access to the same nuking power as BLM (which is not the case), you cast quicker, and you can erase your enmity.

Single target SCH does have access to the same nukes, just not AOE.

By the way Elemental Celerity is 25% casting time, 5% more than SCH with it's "Grimoire: Reduces Spellcasting time" equipment which is recast as well.. Though BLM rock with that Enmity Douse