Raise the minimum allowable job level in Abyssea from 30 to 70+

[Nacht]

All other i ignore becouse you never get it, leechers do not know what ideals are.

I idealize progress and change. Therefore, I change my ideals to suit my current situation. By doing this, whatever I do, I am able to always act within my ideals.

I also agree. <.< In so many parties, I've seen 8 of the 16 people staring at one damn chest when a keywhore wasn't present.

What I hate is people checking a chest then going: Hey there's a TE/KI/bacon here!
Well if you're going to check the damned chest, open it, assface.

[Zeitzone]

Your "ideals" are build on a sham.

For the record I have never leeched a job in abyssea, I just support the ability for people to do so.

Thats what you say, you say i dont prove my gears and that i am gimp.
So if you are lieing why should i belive you.
I think you are the biggest leecher in the game, got everything trough leeching and nothing with own power.
And you cant prove anyone the opossite.
Well kinda we are in the same situation, i cant prove for my gear becouse of my ideals, and if i think about it i dont even care what you think.
You cant prove that you are no leecher, and i bet you do anyways not care if i do belive you.
So wtf.
I need to sleep, its close to middnight, GN.

[HFX7686]

Thats what you say, you say i dont prove my gears and that i am gimp.
So if you are lieing why should i belive you.
I think you are the biggest leecher in the game, got everything trough leeching and nothing with own power.
And you cant prove anyone the opossite.
Well kinda we are in the same situation, i cant prove for my gear becouse of my ideals, and if i think about it i dont even care what you think.
You cant prove that you are no leecher, and i bet you do anyways not care if i do belive you.
So wtf.
I need to sleep, its close to middnight, GN.

I disagree with your ideals and think they are severely misguided.

[Ramsos]

Thats what you say, you say i dont prove my gears and that i am gimp.
So if you are lieing why should i belive you.
I think you are the biggest leecher in the game, got everything trough leeching and nothing with own power.
And you cant prove anyone the opossite.
Well kinda we are in the same situation, i cant prove for my gear becouse of my ideals, and if i think about it i dont even care what you think.
You cant prove that you are no leecher, and i bet you do anyways not care if i do belive you.
So wtf.
I need to sleep, its close to middnight, GN.

As I said in my soon-to-be-mod-deleted post, your "ideal" for not proving that you arent terribly geared doesnt matter. You already admitted to not using haste so we all know you are bad. If you believe me or not about how I leveled my jobs doesnt matter since leveling jobs is not an accomplishment.



Also, now that I have a GMs attention, can you please weigh in on this thread? Can you please tell these people that abyssea is working as intended and that level 30 chest openers was intended from the very beginning.

[Rambus]

Personally I would rather have a key whore in my party than for us to miss TE chests or have half the DD lookin at chests instead of killing mobs. If opening chest is they're role what does their level matter?

I agree with you.

you do not need to be on a level 30 job to whore keys.

[Nacht]

The last time a German had ideals that were this messed up Poland was invaded...

That started a war, similar to the war happening on this forum. Germany vs. America.

[magnius]

This is great. I can't believe someone said it.

[magnius]

wow.... sorry to hear that this was your experiance, I think I would have quit too if it was that way for me. If your experience is still this way, I would think about changing servers, maybe see if the two you mentioned would go with you.

My HNM LS moved server after I joined for 2months. I tied up ends with the Sky LS I was in and moved with them after 3months. Two months after the move, I was made sack. When I moved, I moved away from those friends. Since then, one of them has quit and the other scarcely played anyway so it didn't matter, but we still keep in contact with each other in FB. Without the ease of Abyssea, I wouldn't have accomplished as much as I have already without knowing many and avoided by others.

[Auredant]

you do not need to be on a level 30 job to whore keys.

point is...what's the difference?

[Rambus]

Personally I would rather have a key whore in my party than for us to miss TE chests or have half the DD lookin at chests instead of killing mobs. If opening chest is they're role what does their level matter?

I agree with you.

you do not need to be on a level 30 job to whore keys.

point is...what's the difference?

That abyssea needed to be 75+ from the start.
people are scared to key if they have a good level it seems