The official Dark Knight adjustment and suggestion topic.

[Kagato]

[SIZE="5"]-The Dark Knight Adjustment and Suggestion Topic-[/SIZE]

I am making this topic because I am sure that there will be plenty more topics dedicated to ideas. However, in order to have our voices be heard more easily, I find that a single topic should contain all the ideas players have thought about and hope for some changes to be made.

How this will work:
Every day, I will examine this forum as well as other forums like KillingIfrit and ZAM and update this topic with anything that seems to be collectively accepted by Dark Knight players. I will categorize anything I find under different categories, such as equipment, abilities, magic and weapon skills. By doing this, any SquareEnix representative overseeing this forum can find a single post dedicated to things we Dark Knights are requesting rather than having to weed through several topics.

However, that is not to say everyone should just post here. In fact, I don't encourage that. With every good suggestion, there needs to be evidence of player support and a discussion explaining why. That is why I will provide a LINK to the topic and post where the idea first was introduced. This way anyone can see who came up with the idea, where they came up with it and how everyone responded to it. So please, don't use this topic as the only topic that needs attention.

What ideas will qualify:
Ideas that qualify to be posted here will be those that seem to have more positive support. If more people agree than disagree, it qualifies to be edited here. For example, if someone requests a change that would greatly imbalance Dark Knight or give the job something it already has or does not need, it will not make this list. So remember, think wisely.

Other information:
If you are just a guest but you still wish to get your opinion across, send me a Private Message on www.killingifrit.com if you do not have a SquareEnix ID. I will pass on your idea periodically in weekly topics for the Dark Knight players here to discuss. My user name on that website is "Logan Draconia."

And now, we get to the meat of the topic. Here will be the library of suggestions thought up and accepted by players in the Dark Knight community.

Job Abilities

• Increased "Blood Weapon" duration.
  Source: Ethalio - http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxi/th...a-Dark-Knight-!
• Increased "Last Resort" duration.
  Source: Soeha - http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxi/th...a-Dark-Knight-!
• "Stances" to swap between a melee mode and a magic mode to allow us to be stronger in both Melee and Magic, but we have to choose which "stance" for which occasion. Similar to how Hasso is an offensive "stance" and Seigan is a defensive "stance." We can only use one at any given time and activating the other cancels out the previous one.

Job Traits

• An ability to melee while casting a spell.
  Source: NeoLionheart - http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxi/th...f-junk-to-read!

Equipment
(Nothing yet)

Magic

• Faster casting times for Dark Magic, especially Absorb spells.
  Source: Zicdeh - http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxi/th...a-Dark-Knight-!
  
• New Dark Magic drains, absorbs, and enfeebles (Such as a Dark Magic form of Paralyze or perhaps a Curse spell) specific to Dark Knight only.
  Source: Armangetto - http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxi/th...Knight-!/page2
  
• Damage-Dealing Dark Magic in the same vain that Divine Magic has Banish and Holy. This can help make a better use of Occult Acumen and allow Dark Knights to participate more strongly in magic battles when melee isn't a good option.
  Source: Urteil - http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxi/th...-topic./page13

Weapon Skills

• A new, updated "Critical Hit" weapon skill in order to keep up with the powerful Weapon Skill damage executed by other jobs.
  Source: Septimus - http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxi/th...a-Dark-Knight-!
  
• An adjustment to "Guillotine" since it's damage output is lower than most Weapon Skills used by other jobs now.
  Source: Seoha - http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxi/th...Knight-!/page2
  
• An effect of Stun, Amnesia, Slow, Paralyze, or any sort of attack-hindering status effect against an enemy added to a Weapon Skill for Scythe or Great Sword.
  Source: Gamiina - http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxi/th...a-Dark-Knight-!

Miscellaneous
(Nothing yet)


*****Everything on this list is subject to change and will constantly be updated!*****

[Kagato]

[SIZE="5"]Top Requests from Dark Knights[/SIZE]

Source: http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxi/th...justment-Topic

8. Strengthen or Parry Skill (4 votes)
-Having an Ability called "Tactical Parry" when we have a low Parry Skill isn't very effective.
-Many would prefer a minimum of a B- in Parry skill.

7. Melee while Casting (9 votes)
-A native trait to Dark Knights to allow us to still inflict Melee damage while casting a spell.

6. 2-Hour Ability Changes (11 votes)
-Make Blood Weapon last longer. Or...
-Change Blood Weapon to a 15-minute recast Job Ability and give us a new 2-hour ability completely.

5. "Stances" added to Dark Knight (17 votes)
-Easy to switch between stances.
-Magical Stance for more effective and stronger magical spells.
-Melee stance to deal more effective melee damage.

4. Shortened Dark Magic casting times. (19 votes)
-Preferred if this was a Dark Knight exclusive.
-Would give more use to casting Absorb Spells mid-battle.

3. Strengthened Job Abilities and Traits. (23 Votes)
-Adjustments to make Occult Acumen stronger by using more tiers of the trait based on level or change it to be affected by casting time instead of MP or Damage dealt.

2. New, stronger Dark Magic Absorbs and Spells. (34 votes)
-Absord SPD (speed) is a popular request. Gives DRK Haste while giving the enemy Slow.
-Slower Decay on Absorbs is another popular request.
-New spells to inflict new enfeebles, such as Terrorize, Curse, Doom or Death.

1. Weapon Skill Changes (36 votes)
-New weapon skill entirely to deal Critical Damage and compete with other powerful weapon skills. Or...
-Changes to current Weapon Skills, such as Guillotine or Quietus, to deal critical damage or have stronger modifiers that DRKs normally use, with more focus on STR and DEX instead of INT and MND.


Goals Met:

May 10th, 2011: Last Resort now on a 3 Minute Duration.
May 10th, 2011: New Job Ability to reduce Souleater HP consumption.

[Raelia]

Decent eternal suggestions:


Magic related:

Absorb-SPD
Applies Slow effect to target and Haste effect to caster.

Occult Acumen needs to be enhanced further for Dark Magic spells, since the calculation is based on MP cost and all for the useful spells on DRK are fairly low in MP cost.

An enhanced Stun-esque spell, possibly Terror or inflicts Terror, and non-elemental to work on Lightning-resistant targets

There is currently an issue after the recalculation of Drain damage that Drain will now outperform Drain II with sufficient Dark Magic Skill (at least, extrapolating past level 90). A change in Drain II's calculations would be nice, and allowing it to work on top of Abyssea's HP buff would be acceptable too.

Return Absorb-TP to it's original effectiveness. Casting a spell for nothing is pointless and trite and makes it un-worthwhile.

Dark Magic Mastery Trait - Increases potency of Dark Magic spells by a moderate +%


Job Trait/Ability related

Two-handed weapon mastery
Reduces delay of two-handed weapons.

It's preferable that this not reduce tp/hit to not break hit-builds.

A trait enhancement to Souleater at higher levels to increase damage without increasing HP loss. Possibly two-handed-weapon only.

Increased Last Resort duration (possibly in the new merit system), not just a few seconds though (which could hardly affect a single swing!) more like pushing it beyond a minute or more.

A job trait that will have an occasional and partial Blood Weapon effect at times when a Scythe is equipped. Should be at least 50% of damage.


Gear Related:

Empyrean +2 equipment has a laughable effect rate at 5%. It's a joke for most jobs really. Increasing the effect only on a full set is also less than worthwhile because that removes more important stats like Haste on DRK.


That covers most of the Allakhazam DRK forum's suggestions.

[Kagato]

Thank you for providing these! The suggestions from the Alla-board are all not that bad. Maybe a few unbalancing ideas, but mostly pretty good.

However, the one regarding a natural double-attack just doesn't seem like a good idea. A natural DA seems to be WAR's gift and should stay that way.

[Masekase]

Thank you for providing these! The suggestions from the Alla-board are all not that bad. Maybe a few unbalancing ideas, but mostly pretty good.

However, the one regarding a natural double-attack just doesn't seem like a good idea. A natural DA seems to be WAR's gift and should stay that way.

Ok fine thf has triple war has double hell ill settle for drks having quad attack then :P lol

[Quetzacoatl]

However, the one regarding a natural double-attack just doesn't seem like a good idea. A natural DA seems to be WAR's gift and should stay that way.

Why restrict it to just WAR when even BLU gets it as a job trait set with spells? The only difference is WAR can make more use of Double Attack gear than most jobs.

[Tsukino_Kaji]

[SIZE="5"]Top 10 Requests from Dark Knights[/SIZE]

Source: http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxi/th...justment-Topic

10. N/A

9. Strengthen or Parry Skill (4 votes)
-Having an Ability called "Tactical Parry" when we have a low Parry Skill isn't very effective.
-Many would prefer a minimum of a B- in Parry skill.

8) Melee while Casting (9 votes)
-A native trait to Dark Knights to allow us to still inflict Melee damage while casting a spell.

7. 2-Hour Ability Changes (11 votes)
-Make Blood Weapon last longer. Or...
-Change Blood Weapon to a 15-minute recast Job Ability and give us a new 2-hour ability completely.

6. "Stances" added to Dark Knight (17 votes)
-Easy to switch between stances.
-Magical Stance for more effective and stronger magical spells.
-Melee stance to deal more effective melee damage.

5. Shortened Dark Magic casting times. (19 votes)
-Preferred if this was a Dark Knight exclusive.
-Would give more use to casting Absorb Spells mid-battle.

4. Strengthened Job Abilities and Traits. (23 Votes)
-Adjustments to make Occult Acumen stronger by using more tiers of the trait based on level or change it to be affected by casting time instead of MP or Damage dealt.
-Changes to Souleater to be more useful to use full time rather than being completely situational and rare to use.

3. New, stronger Dark Magic Absorbs and Spells. (34 votes)
-Absord SPD (speed) is a popular request. Gives DRK Haste while giving the enemy Slow.
-Slower Decay on Absorbs is another popular request.
-New spells to inflict new enfeebles, such as Terrorize, Curse, Doom or Death.

2. Weapon Skill Changes (36 votes)
-New weapon skill entirely to deal Critical Damage and compete with other powerful weapon skills. Or...
-Changes to current Weapon Skills, such as Guillotine or Quietus, to deal critical damage or have stronger modifiers that DRKs normally use, with more focus on STR and DEX instead of INT and MND.

And currently, the #1 Request from Dark Knight players, with a total of 55 votes is:

Increase Duration of Last Resort.
Preferred Time: 2-3 Minutes
Some are willing to have Desperate Blows adjusted to achieve this if a balancing issue will arise.

Nothing like complainer DRKs complaining. A lot of the stuff in this thread are lies or half truths perpetuated by DRKs for DRKs. I mean realy. Every DRK I see is one shotting the same mobs that everyone else with these "more powerful" WS are only doing 20-80%. I've learned that most people simply need to re-evaluate their play style in this new age, finding thier own shortcomings instead of blaming nonbroken game balance. Also the post I quoted, all of the votes therein are biased examples.

[Jar]

Nothing like complainer DRKs complaining. A lot of the stuff in this thread are lies or half truths perpetuated by DRKs for DRKs. I mean realy. Every DRK I see is one shotting the same mobs that everyone else with these "more powerful" WS are only doing 20-80%. I've learned that most people simply need to re-evaluate their play style in this new age, finding thier own shortcomings instead of blaming nonbroken game balance. Also the post I quoted, all of the votes therein are biased examples.

^ This ^ 100%

[Urteil]

Nothing like complainer DRKs complaining. A lot of the stuff in this thread are lies or half truths perpetuated by DRKs for DRKs. I mean realy. Every DRK I see is one shotting the same mobs that everyone else with these "more powerful" WS are only doing 20-80%. I've learned that most people simply need to re-evaluate their play style in this new age, finding thier own shortcomings instead of blaming nonbroken game balance. Also the post I quoted, all of the votes therein are biased examples.

My response is Blue Mage. LOOK AT THEM.

Anyone can one shot a lot of mobs, trash mobs, EP, DC? Yea I can do that, I could do that with an Axe, with Guillotine, and I can with Lv.90 Caladbolg!

And your using Abyssea to make such a bold claim, when abyssea basically means "Oh I have a crit WS +60% more free damage please!" Nothing makes sense in Abyssea and if anyone with half a brain is using a Crit WS they are going to piss all over Torcleaver or anything DRK can bring to the table. All Torcleaver does is give me a huge step forward in being on the same damn board as far as damage is concerned, it definitely doesn't put me anywhere near I need to be considering the rest of the shit my job lacks:

Survivability
Utility
Self-Sufficiency


Anyone can one shot trash mobs, how is that even an argument?. . .


And even if the above is true, look at job like Dancer and Ninja that can solo things and tank, and be self sufficient. . .what can we do? Do lackluster damage and then subsequently die, because we have no defensive abilities of our own? Or damage that really makes up for a lack of survivability?

And when every Dark Knight thought they saw the end of the tunnel, the light that would give us some meaning and way to rise above it all, when we all thought "OH SHIT THIS CAN'T GET ANY WORSE". We got a Circle II ability and [DRUM ROLL] -

Tactical Parry. . . and you have the audacity and lack of common sense to say that our malady is that we suffer because of personal shortcomings, and can't use our job right?

. . . . Are you for fucking real?

And if you want people to take your argument about the removal of PS2 Limitations seriously, get rid of the stupid Prishe Chibi and post it in a manner that anyone over the age of 12 and who isn't a pedophile will take into consideration.

[Jar]

My response is Blue Mage. LOOK AT THEM.

Anyone can one shot a lot of mobs, trash mobs, EP, DC? Yea I can do that, I could do that with an Axe, with Guillotine, and I can with Lv.90 Caladbolg!

And your using Abyssea to make such a bold claim, when abyssea basically means "Oh I have a crit WS +60% more free damage please!" Nothing makes sense in Abyssea and if anyone with half a brain is using a Crit WS they are going to piss all over Torcleaver or anything DRK can bring to the table. All Torcleaver does is give me a huge step forward in being on the same damn board as far as damage is concerned, it definitely doesn't put me anywhere near I need to be considering the rest of the shit my job lacks:

Survivability
Utility
Self-Sufficiency


Anyone can one shot trash mobs, how is that even an argument?. . .


And even if the above is true, look at job like Dancer and Ninja that can solo things and tank, and be self sufficient. . .what can we do? Do lackluster damage and then subsequently die, because we have no defensive abilities of our own? Or damage that really makes up for a lack of survivability?

And when every Dark Knight thought they saw the end of the tunnel, the light that would give us some meaning and way to rise above it all, when we all thought "OH SHIT THIS CAN'T GET ANY WORSE". We got a Circle II ability and [DRUM ROLL] -

Tactical Parry. . . and you have the audacity and lack of common sense to say that our malady is that we suffer because of personal shortcomings, and can't use our job right?

. . . . Are you for fucking real?

And if you want people to take your argument about the removal of PS2 Limitations seriously, get rid of the stupid Prishe Chibi and post it in a manner that anyone over the age of 12 and who isn't a pedophile will take into consideration.

No 2 handed DD other than drg/mage has very much survivability.. fuck war gets NOTHING but defender and that hardly does anything.....

you wana solo like a blu or nin fuckin level blu or nin.