Please Rework "FULL BREAK'S" effectiveness + other GA ws's like it DEV TEAM /wave

[kingfury]

How exactly are Damage and -PDT being bolstered for players when Full Break is used? Either as it stands now, or in some manner via proposed changes. There is no mob stat for the WS to adjust to gain those effects. The closest you could get is -VIT, which would raise fSTR but only if fSTR is not capped (same problem -Def has now anyways).
Are you trying to make the WS give an AoE Aftermath buff or something? =/

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Yeah, I've edited in the suggestion to the OP. Sorry for not putting that in the post above. I'll add it.

[Byrth]

You can tell whether or not Breaks land by when they wear off (this is the only way I know of). If the Defense down from Full Break lands, it will have more of an impact than Warcry, and people claim to be able to see when Warcry is up. I don't think there's any need for a status icon, but I guess they could add a message to the effect of, "Additional effect: Evasion/Defense/Attack down" or whatever lands.

SE needs to keep feeding us new things to do to keep us playing. I'm damned near capped out on Abyssea. Fixing old content like "Breaks" is going to affect the way that we continue playing, but I wouldn't renew my subscription for a patch full of fixes that gave me new ways to do things I'd already done.

Edit: Well, I should say that people can tell when and quantify Full Break's Defense Down and Evasion down land through /check tests or by using ranged attacks.

[kingfury]

I hear ya ^^ Thanks for the feedback /

Now the issue isn't just to know if the ws's effects have in fact landed on a target, but if the ws's are in fact effective enough to be considered worth having at this point in the game. They are a waste of TP as they are currently since they do not outweigh simply using a high damaging ws in their place in terms of battle strategy.

My most recently added suggestion would give them an added dimension in terms of battle strategy at the very least, and would allow party members to benefit from the bolstered effects. Plus give some nice visual feedback to the user of the ws.

[Afrohatch]

No one's going to use Full Break even with this buff lol, especially if they have Ukko's at their disposal

[Rambus]

No one's going to use Full Break even with this buff lol, especially if they have Ukko's at their disposal

sure we do.... need to find blue and can't kill tooo fast because of procs.

I dislike trying to scout red on a different weapon >< no red GA ws.

[Afrohatch]

sure we do.... need to find blue and can't kill tooo fast because of procs.

A perfect reason to buff FB >_>

[kingfury]

No one's going to use Full Break even with this buff lol, especially if they have Ukko's at their disposal

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Well mine is just a suggestion ^^ but the problem lies within your comment. Do you think the Devs wanted DD's strategy to be reduced to just hitting the hardest for every single challenge we come up against? Perhaps, but I'd like to think not. True Battle strategy is all about defense and offense and the balancing of the two.

Strategically speaking, in a possible theoretical example:
Popping Full Break at 100 TP with the "Bolstering effects" in my suggestion to +Damage and +Accuracy then quickly building 200+ TP before using Bergresser > Warcry > Blood Rage > Sekkekoni > 2hr > RR x2 could possibly give some nice visible spikes to damage that could yield consistent damage based on how many times you hit the monster during your TP'ing segment. Just a thought though.

[Afrohatch]

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True Battle strategy is all about defense and offense and the balancing of the two.

No, it's killing it before it kills you.

[kingfury]

No, it's killing it before it kills you.

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>< well of course I'm referring strategies that involve foes you can't run in and zerg kill ^^ Standard monsters and weak NM's definitely fall under the logic you speak of. /

[Afrohatch]

Name some NMs where Full Break would have a practical use on, then.