[dev1009] Seriously.... how could you make the HNM system worse...

[KigenAngelios]

This is probably the worst way to go about it. I get wanting to limit the amount of spamming of these HNMs but seriously you are making doing these HNMs exponentially difficult to do partially because of the fact that most high level players are no longer obtaining Kindred Seals.

Also are the trophy items being removed from the KS99 BCs? Do the NQ Kings drop HQ King pop items all the time (ie 100%)? All of this on top of making black belt harder to get by taking away the 100% from the HQs.This system is so convoluted now - pop-HNM are worse. Is there any upside? Will Ridill and Defending ring and Abj. be 100% now?

Am I the only one who find this unacceptable?

Edit: On the note of seals and farmablity;
a) You can only have 1 KS in the pool per party in an alliance (Approx 1 every 5 mins)
b) This pool is shared with High KS and Kindred Crests
c) Assuming one gains all the possible KSs and it drops every time, it takes 8hrs 15mins to gain 99 KSs...

Edit #2:
Another problem is going to be just getting people to do the KSNMs... nothing about this changes offers anything - we need to pray for altruistic friends. If I really wanted an egg I could have solo'd Adam - with this change I'd have to pray and beg people for help and to achieve anything. Forgoing all the gd running around we'd need to do...

[Orson]

Did you actually read the post? They giving us the ability to fight these way more often. You can farm KSs really really easily. Whether any people with fight anything other than King Behemoth will remain to be seen.

[Snaplin]

Did you actually read the post? They giving us the ability to fight these way more often. You can farm KSs really really easily. Whether any people with fight anything other than King Behemoth will remain to be seen.

That doesn't mean shit... Who has the time to sit and farm KS's off retarded mobs to get people to drag them out to a KS99 to kill for a pop to pop a NQ to pop an HQ to do that all over... At least the time was spanned over HQ/NQ days. People cried about 3hours... congrats spending even more time trying to get a pop for a effing HNM that's going to be 10x more pain in the ass to get an item off of.

[Chaani]

Good game SE, this ranks right up there with relieving Abyssea congestion by adding seals to the visions zones.

[KigenAngelios]

Also are they raising all the abjuration drops or items drops (Ridill, Defending Ring, etc etc) signinifcantly? Cus as a non-mnk those are the items I'd care about.

Edit: This would be less of an issue if it were Crests and not Seals

[Zerovirus]

Seriously SE is just coming out with shit now. Instead of "okay faf's window opens tonight at 9, guess I can do other shit til then." No it's "Damn I want Dring/BB, lemme just farm for 4 fucking days to get enought KS to do the ksnm's."

[Karbuncle]

I must forget how bad it sucks to not have somewhere near 900 Kindred seals or more :\

[Kari]

Worst possible outcome for the update on HNMs. Come on SE.

[thefinalrune]

While I personally have zero interest in these HNMs I completely agree with the OP. I would have thought the entire reasoning behind making these NMs pop-able was alleviate the fierce competition for mostly the items they're now making it harder to obtain.

Smooth move SE, lets just defecate all over the hope and dreams of every monk by now not only making it more arduous to even fight the mob that drops the black belt items but lets also make the drop rate even lower.

Let me give you a nice {Congratulations!} for totally missing the point.

[Daremo]

This is such a useless and counter productive change, I can barely grasp it. What a hearty and heartfelt felt "screw you" to those players out there. I can't even say anything that wouldn't be flat out abusive. I can't think of a worse idea SE has tried to implement in the history of this game.

This is complete and utter garbage.