Dupegate, the aftermath and lack of consequences

[Isola]

It's the toilet of vanadiel. But there are no other options if you want to be able to buy anything without having to pay $40 to get it

[Alhanelem]

It's the toilet of vanadiel. But there are no other options if you want to be able to buy anything without having to pay $40 to get it

It's really not as bad as you think.... while mercing is certainly a thing, I can do pretty much anything, even dynamis D, without paying mercs (But for dynamis, to be fair, If I really want to do it I have to get up early in the morning lol) And no, I'm not a merc nor am I good (or rather, multibox-y) enough to be.
I hear you on this, but I can almost guarantee a better game experience on any other server unless you have really good friends who are adamant about staying (Honestly, I've been on Shiva since NA launch)

Yeah, it's not a perfect solution, but it is certainly a quick fix in the face of SE dragging their feet on doing anything about cheaters. I can only imagine that they look at the situation and evaluate if they thing they'd lose more sub money from doing nothing vs banning the offenders. At least in the first dupegate I imagine they obviously came to the conclusion that not banning those 45 people would be likely to cost them more than 45 legitimate player subs. The thread about Neo Dupegate was dated today (or yesterday depending on your timezone) so we'll see if there is a response on round two...

[Typral]

Another dupe... what is happening to the game!! XD

[Mikah]

I love that stacks upon stacks of duped medals still being sold daily by the people who hoarded them.

https://www.ffxiah.com/player/Asura/Nqftw

[Typral]

LOL. Jeepers, maybe they think a random character can physically farm 30 stacks of Beast/kindred seals in less than a month. Seems legit.

[TullemoreAsuraFFXI]

Ya, sure seems like the staff at Square-Enix should have increased the history of sales to extend back to the previous 200+ sales. Honestly it wouldn't have been that large of a change in the UI. That way players and Square-Enix staff could route out manipulations, exploitation and overall shady behavior.

[Alhanelem]

Ya, sure seems like the staff at Square-Enix should have increased the history of sales to extend back to the previous 200+ sales. Honestly it wouldn't have been that large of a change in the UI. That way players and Square-Enix staff could route out manipulations, exploitation and overall shady behavior.

I'm pretty sure SE has access to more sales data than you can see on the AH.

[Mikah]

I'm pretty sure SE has access to more sales data than you can see on the AH.

Of course they do, the problem is the don't care enough to enforce the rules, and none of you care enough to make them.

[Alhanelem]

Of course they do, the problem is the don't care enough to enforce the rules, and none of you care enough to make them.

I report bots, cheating and bad behavior all the time. I certainly do care, personally.

I think the server population disparity may also be a factor at work here. They might look at the big picture and see the average amount of incidents isnt unusual or anything, but the reality is, the server(s) with the most players have disporportionately more problems going on. The averages probably make the problem look less severe than it really is when they look at the overall data. Yes, there were no medal dupers on Shiva, but there were a ton on Asura. It needs to be dealt with the same ferocity as the RMT spam and other crap that is more the same on all servers.

[Moonja]

Legit right.
Sure SE can see all the history they want. But maybe if we show it to them here they "might" fix it....