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    Player Glizdus's Avatar
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    Yoran-Oran debuff removal adjustments

    Hi there,

    I just want You to look into Yoran-Oran's debuff removal algorythm since sometimes he suck so much!
    Well, most of the time.
    Like now, I'm exping on Drusy Twitherym and they using annoying TP move Blockout which put Para/Blind/Silence on you and he only bothers to remove a silence SOMETIMES dispelling Blind but letting me run with the Para untill it wears alone...
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    Player Dzspdref's Avatar
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    Use Mihli for DD and/or use Kupipi in league with Yoran. Then it'll get dispelled, Mihli is pretty good at dispelling off hindrances, and Kupipi usually removes the more annoying of the problems first, or always has for me. Or sub whm, or dnc, or sch. self-remove them.
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    Use remedies

    Could also use Joachim as he cures, songs and erases.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sirmarki View Post
    Use remedies

    Could also use Joachim as he cures, songs and erases.
    A single remedy costs 3k I don't wanna waste my gil for that.
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    Player Glizdus's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dzspdref View Post
    Use Mihli for DD and/or use Kupipi in league with Yoran. Then it'll get dispelled, Mihli is pretty good at dispelling off hindrances, and Kupipi usually removes the more annoying of the problems first, or always has for me. Or sub whm, or dnc, or sch. self-remove them.
    Those trusts doesn't fit into my party setup.
    Usually I am using (on PLD) Yoran / Koru / Joachim / Shan 2 / Iroha 2
    And Yoran is a WHM which SHOULD remove debuffs ASAP. He does remove Para, but he's lazy about it.
    His time of reaction needs to be adjusted tho.
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    Player Dzspdref's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Glizdus View Post
    Those trusts doesn't fit into my party setup.
    Usually I am using (on PLD) Yoran / Koru / Joachim / Shan 2 / Iroha 2
    And Yoran is a WHM which SHOULD remove debuffs ASAP. He does remove Para, but he's lazy about it.
    His time of reaction needs to be adjusted tho.
    I use Mihli (WHM/WAR) and she removes buffs near instantly, sometimes even before they fully manifest. e.g.: I was fighting Torama - in Laby. of Onzozo for a mule's exp and they would cast Blaster and Chaotic eye, she was casting Paralyna / Silena / Stona nearly same time the mob did the motion for inflicting it... every. time. She is the same for every other trust party i use. Insta-debuff removals.
    Maybe you might want to change your tactics for a set up and either settle for what you have and not change the AI of the game, or be satisfied for what your "set up" does, and put up with the lack of a slower reaction trust? That's why they have multiple trusts with multiple roles and multiple AI reactionary algorithms. Or even better, bring along a real person and not use a trust, but not sure on population on Bahamut that might allow that, with those 40-50 people on at any time :P .
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    Player Glizdus's Avatar
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    I'll give Mihili a try.
    And there are 471ppl logged in at this moment :P
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    Player Sirmarki's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Glizdus View Post
    there are 471ppl logged in at this moment :P
    Currently over 4x that on Asura :P
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    Player Glizdus's Avatar
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    Yeah I know Asura is most populated.
    But how many of that chars are actually unique players, not just an army of alts?
    I know a guy who runs 12 accounts on his IP address
    It also applies to Bahamut, but the more ppl are logged in, the better chance is that he/she got an alt online too
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