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    Player Mithlas's Avatar
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    Item Levels 120+

    Could we get any teasers as to how high SE is planning to push equipment item level at this time?

    I am hearing from JP side that 119 is not the end - we should look forward to higher levels.

    Just curious.
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    Player Vae's Avatar
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    It's far to late to go up in ilvl after spending 4 full years at 119.

    I wanted iIncrease 2 years ago. At this point I'd just literally die laughing if they made i129. Do you understand the volume of rage that would happen.

    It'll be the best day ever if the announce it, there isn't enough popcorn on earth.

    ((yes, I was there from the release. the 75> 80+ jump wont compare. the 99 to igarbage wont compare. the shitstorm of trillions spent on reisen augs would be of biblical proportions.))
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    The playerbase is now numb to losing all of their invested gil. No rage will ever top the Salvage bans, entire QQ articles written by the banned about why FFXI was now a "dead game without the elite players" The level cap raise was a distant second, imo. This here would be like a distant....seventeen or something.

    But I can't imagine they would bother at this point unless they just want to inform people of what ilevel their gear truly is, because it is beyond 119.
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    Player OmnysValefor's Avatar
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    To be honest, I can't understand what SE's issue with showing accurate ilvl. So what if trusts get a little more powerful.

    Presently, melee trusts can't hit lower apex mobs, let alone anything remotely hard. Bards cast whatever they feel like and the healers run out of mp.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OmnysValefor View Post
    To be honest, I can't understand what SE's issue with showing accurate ilvl. So what if trusts get a little more powerful.

    Presently, melee trusts can't hit lower apex mobs, let alone anything remotely hard. Bards cast whatever they feel like and the healers run out of mp.
    My trusts hit crabs and bats in Dho with no problems, ever since the mob AGI:eva nerf a while back. Healers do fine as long as they have a source of refresh. Not due to cheer choice either because I'm using the trust:FC/macc one.. There are ways to work around trust issues for the most part. They might seem less efficient at first glance, but if what you are doing isn't working, then you might want to try out something different.

    The primary sticking point about raising the ilvl cap for the devs is most likely the issue of pDIF since each level a mob has over yours gives them eva+34. Since ilvl = player level as far as pDIF is concerned, any actual raise in the ilvl cap would lower acc req's significantly. If it was a mere 3 ilvl increase to 122, that would be 102 less accuracy you would need to cap against every single 119+ mob and NM. Increasing the cap to say, ilvl 129, would reduce acc req's by a whopping 340. ._.;;
    As a byproduct, it would also devalue existing gear since acc caps would be easier to reach and highest acc gear would be overkill / wasted stats for the min-maxers.
    ... That's why I'd expect any increased ilvls to be primarily cosmetic and actual ilvl to remain capped to 119.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nyarlko View Post
    The primary sticking point about raising the ilvl cap for the devs is most likely the issue of pDIF since each level a mob has over yours gives them eva+34. Since ilvl = player level as far as pDIF is concerned, any actual raise in the ilvl cap would lower acc req's significantly. If it was a mere 3 ilvl increase to 122, that would be 102 less accuracy you would need to cap against every single 119+ mob and NM. Increasing the cap to say, ilvl 129, would reduce acc req's by a whopping 340. ._.;;
    As a byproduct, it would also devalue existing gear since acc caps would be easier to reach and highest acc gear would be overkill / wasted stats for the min-maxers.
    ... That's why I'd expect any increased ilvls to be primarily cosmetic and actual ilvl to remain capped to 119.
    You are super mixing up terms here. pDif has nothing to do with evasion. One has to do with hit rate and one has to do with the dmg adjust from att/def ratio. I think you mean level correction which can effect both hit rate and pdif. And each additional level on the mob lowered your hit rate by 2 which was the equivalent to 4 evasion not 34 and not really adding to their evasion. Now mobs do gain a bit of straight evasion with their level as well but that's independent of level difference.

    And regardless they got rid of lvl correction except in older content which they halved. So on anything that matters just having a higher ilvl wont effect those things at all.

    Things that ilvl would actually effect:

    Trusts: Depending on how much this could be meh or as we saw the few days they were high level pretty awesome

    Pets: While not directly effected by your ilvl the base ilvl of wyerns and jugs are based on mainhand weapon and ammo/ranged for autos and avatars. While yes we are talking about af right now I really can't see them not including weapons just for completion and again because pets would be left out. This however leads to an issue. Pup and smn just got an semi expensive crafted piece 119 piece that made their pets stronger and completely invalidating it with a higher one would make much QQ

    Cure enmity: Cure enmity is based on level of the target and awhile back they adjusted to count ilvl. Raising ilvl would technically make cures give less enmity. However the effect is small/not completely mapped out because enmity is a joke these days.
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    Player Olor's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by OmnysValefor View Post
    To be honest, I can't understand what SE's issue with showing accurate ilvl. So what if trusts get a little more powerful.

    Presently, melee trusts can't hit lower apex mobs, let alone anything remotely hard. Bards cast whatever they feel like and the healers run out of mp.
    I'd love to see my trust's levels rise a bit to match my own, better, gear... but... I don't see it happening. Wish it would though, then I might be able to solo myself a bit higher up the gear ladder.

    Melee trusts are completely useless currently.
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    Player Diavolo's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Olor View Post
    Melee trusts are completely useless currently.
    I wouldn't go that far. I tend to use Iroha II and/or AA GK for their ability to keep churning out SCs. Their damage isn't great, but the constant SCs ensure Shantotto II is able to burn mobs down quickly, so as long as whatever you're fighting isn't magic resistant they still serve their purpose.
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    Player Shiyo's Avatar
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    Ilvl doesn't need to go up.
    Unless you want to wait 5 years for there to be an actual amount of content to do in that new ilvl.
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    Never say never! It could happen. Hey, I remember when people said we will never go past 75, get BLU, or even get a new expansion pack, but it all happened.
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