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    Player Edyth's Avatar
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    Unnerf Nirvana's avatar magic attack bonus please.

    When Nirvana begins its item level ascent, it COMPLETELY loses what was formerly its second most valuable trait: avatar magic attack bonus. The 2 extra avatar levels from 119 Nirvana don't make up for it when using magic blood pacts. I have to macro in a dinky Sparks staff for magic pacts to get better damage. Could Nirvana please at least be better than the Sparks of Eminence staff for magic damage?
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    Player Ulth's Avatar
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    You would think they would at least put it on the 119 III Nirvana, but the mythics got no love in that update.
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    Player Secondplanet's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ulth View Post
    You would think they would at least put it on the 119 III Nirvana, but the mythics got no love in that update.
    mythics got some love but every weapon only got it for the master rather then separating the bonus for pets jobs. Would have thought it would have got an increase to its BP damage rather then the attack of the summoner since we're never close to endgame fights and wouldn't even have the accuracy to hit anything there either.
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    Player Ulth's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Secondplanet View Post
    mythics got some love but every weapon only got it for the master rather then separating the bonus for pets jobs. Would have thought it would have got an increase to its BP damage rather then the attack of the summoner since we're never close to endgame fights and wouldn't even have the accuracy to hit anything there either.
    No they really didn't. They got +27 combat skill which is 24 accuracy, the same as all the other RME, and less of an increase in base damage than the other RME. While relic and empy weapons both got increases to aftermaths, as well as various other bonuses to their abilities. For example Claustrum now gives +60 accuracy to the pet and owner instead of just +40 to the owner. Isn't that odd that they remembered the pet stuff on Claustrum, the staff that blm and smn both can use, but not on Nirvana, the one that is solely for smn?
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    Player Secondplanet's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ulth View Post
    No they really didn't. They got +27 combat skill which is 24 accuracy, the same as all the other RME, and less of an increase in base damage than the other RME. While relic and empy weapons both got increases to aftermaths, as well as various other bonuses to their abilities. For example Claustrum now gives +60 accuracy to the pet and owner instead of just +40 to the owner. Isn't that odd that they remembered the pet stuff on Claustrum, the staff that blm and smn both can use, but not on Nirvana, the one that is solely for smn?
    But you're overlooking the aftermath effect of the weaponskill for mythics. Its kinda hard to put big stats on a weapon that you can more or less choose what bonus you get when you weapon skill. Yes more stats can be placed on the weapon but they are limited for combat ones. I could see maybe adding an effect the augments a job trait on them though for melee jobs.
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    Player Ulth's Avatar
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    Mythic aftermaths are terrible. With all the triple and double attack on gear now occasionally attacking twice or thrice is pointless, and the amount of attack and accuracy that aftermath 2 and 1 give are minuscule. Also all of the mythic weapons do have abilities that target unique aspects of the job. Those could have been improved, but they weren't, and in fact are the same as they were at lvl 99.
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    Technically it trades avatar mab for pet bp.
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    Player Helldemon's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ulth View Post
    Mythic aftermaths are terrible. With all the triple and double attack on gear now occasionally attacking twice or thrice is pointless.
    Ya, sure, 40% Double attack and 20% Triple attack is pointless... Any Relic Owner would gladly trade their aftermath for mythic's unless they are very stupid. They weren't improved because not only is the aftermath a longer duration it's far superior to Relic's and probably still better then Empy's.
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    Last edited by Helldemon; 05-25-2016 at 04:36 AM.

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    Player Ulth's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Helldemon View Post
    Ya, sure, 40% Double attack and 20% Triple attack is pointless... Any Relic Owner would gladly trade their aftermath for mythic's unless they are very stupid. They weren't improved because not only is the aftermath a longer duration it's far superior to Relic's and probably still better then Empy's.
    If it was 40% Double attack and 20% Triple attack it would be great but it's not. It's occasionally attacks thrice 20% and occasionally attacks twice 40%. There is a really big difference.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ulth View Post
    If it was 40% Double attack and 20% Triple attack it would be great but it's not. It's occasionally attacks thrice 20% and occasionally attacks twice 40%. There is a really big difference.
    Yet still far better then other aftermath's.
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