WHM/MNK (this is not a troll)

[Charismatic]

A few refresh pieces and an Ethereal Earring more than makes up for the loss of MM on certain NMs and using both means less damage intake because of a higher counter rate. You definitely don't want to give up RR though.
As always, shit's situational.

[Dallas]

As for Avatars guarding i'm calling BS on that lol

Per DG Atma, one of 2 things is true about avatars:

1) They always got their natural 50% damage reduction from auto-guard. The atma accidentally pushed avatars to 100% pdt.
2) They were considered to have less than 50% hp for this atma only. SE decided not to fix this error during a nerf.

The simplest explanation, in absence of a more accurate explanation, is generally accepted as the correct one.

[Bulrogg]

I just unlocked AoRL and AoDG yesterday and haven't had much time to play (test it out) with it.

I'm thinking for NIN/mnk or MNK/xxx: AoRL AoRR & AoGH

[Rezeak]

Per DG Atma, one of 2 things is true about avatars:

1) They always got their natural 50% damage reduction from auto-guard. The atma accidentally pushed avatars to 100% pdt.
2) They were considered to have less than 50% hp for this atma only. SE decided not to fix this error during a nerf.

The simplest explanation, in absence of a more accurate explanation, is generally accepted as the correct one.

it's 2) you can see this by reduced movement speed.

Also u can't guard magic and the atma reduces the magic DMG the avatar takes not to mention u can't guard backwards.

Either way this is a discussion for SMN topic not WHM lol.

[Nakts]

tested this... got my ass handed to me in no time at all, countered once

[Greatguardian]

Was your accuracy capped? You can miss counters, and the mob will hit you if you do.

[WanderingWhiteMage]

WHM/MNK on full HP gear in Abyssea (over 7k HP). Here is the link