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    Player dasva's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Secondplanet View Post
    I know you said to keep things on track but Dragoons have had to choose between wyvern stats and their own with accessories. The Dragoon's wyvern can't keep up with endgame content from the constant spam of AoE's and they have been a frontline job since day one. While i do feel sorry for BST they will have to choose between stats for them and their pets as all pet jobs do now.

    I think it would be fair though to maybe give them some job traits to make up for it though.
    Yeah but drgs don't really count on the wyvern for half their dmg... in fact just keeping the wyvern alive gives the master a huge boost in att/def and haste so in a way it's even less of a choice since choosing to help your pet stay alive also gives huge boosts both in dmg and defensively for the master. Plus there is the large innate DT and such.

    As far as all pet jobs... um what other pet job stays in range? Smn certainly doesn't not with 30 second recast and not having to get that close to begin with. geo can for an extra debuff but often doesn't plus their "pet" also has a huge native dt. Pup can but usually doesn't and besides their pet already has a much greater built in survivability. Notice the pattern all the jobs that are near there pets already have huge built in dts for there pets. So they don't actually have to choose between survivability of the master or pet because the pet will have just as much survivability as the master when the master is in full dt set. Should also be noted that besides bst and drg all other pets jobs have pets that are fairly disposable able to put them back out in short order so they care a lot less if they die to begin with.

    tl;dr to make this fair compared to what drg has to do you'd basically need to give the jug a native 30% dt and give them some kind of boost for keeping their pets alive like huge ja haste (which would be a good idea anyways considering they keep pushing fencer on bst and single wielding isn't a good idea for them without some ja haste)
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    Last edited by dasva; 09-12-2015 at 06:52 AM.

  2. #12
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    Quote Originally Posted by Olor View Post
    Except we won't even be able to solo anymore.

    And there's no real charming mobs and just throwing them at stuff till it dies either.
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    bst has gone major downhill

    Like other day was helping ls in AA Elvaan Tough, being within 10 yalms to do move is impossible done like 2 readys and 1 shotted in full 119 gear and 1200 jps, they need to make range change to be decent cant even do iron giants and stand behind as your too far from pet its a absolute joke, hope SE can sort range out sooner than later.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cebera001 View Post
    Like other day was helping ls in AA Elvaan Tough, being within 10 yalms to do move is impossible done like 2 readys and 1 shotted in full 119 gear and 1200 jps, they need to make range change to be decent cant even do iron giants and stand behind as your too far from pet its a absolute joke, hope SE can sort range out sooner than later.
    Sadly, they're happy with the Nerf and are making a cute placating adjustment that doesn't address the problem so they can say "we tried to make you happy - nothing makes you happy so we're done trying to".
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