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  1. #211
    Player Pups323's Avatar
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    Well it looks like (on jp forums) ( google translate so dont shoot he messenger)

    1) If you have void stones at the voidwatch officer, you dont have to go get the KI, it can just consume them from the officer until he is out (no running back every 6 mobs).
    2) It looks like they are tripling the effect of 'cells'


    I guess well see this afternoon if they decide to translate it.
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    Last edited by Pups323; 03-04-2016 at 01:31 AM.

  2. #212
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    Hmmm. Now the KI idea is good, but I don't think tripling the effect of cells will help with the situation. I believe expanding the avenues of how we can obtain these items is a better plan. Again, most would agree that we are not looking for something so easy that all you have to do is /wave and get what you need, but acquiring the items should be as accessible as the items needed for a mythic and relic. Even if it means expanding these items to new 119+ mobs in abyssea or anything VW related.
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  3. #213
    Player Pups323's Avatar
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    I personally think these changes do very little to address the root of the problem, which is

    the drop rate is awful
    No one does voidwatch/wants to do voidwatch unless they are upgrading an empy
    void dust is a pain to obtain (buying 1 at a time AND requiring awful conversion rates)
    void stones are too limited compared to other items/end game events of yore (you can salvage 1x per hour/dynamis 1x per hour...but you dont get a new void stone 1x per hour)
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  4. #214
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    I still think it really comes down to voidstones. SE simply has to gives us more of them. Streamlining the process doesn't hurt but eventually you'll run out and you'll be stuck with 2 per day which is just unfathomably low at this point in the game's life. Void dust is not a solution as currently implemented.

    I do like the VW campaign we get now and then, but voidstones are still a limiting factor.
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  5. #215
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    And the excuses of but this is alliance content with individual pools so if you bring an alliance to get a ton of drops so no need to up rates doesn't really fly. Aside from the fact most of the farming is done solo or low man really what's the difference between an alliance farming vw for plates or 18 people soloing other content for similar type things like say salvage for alex? On any of this old content that you can easily solo/low man you can still up your overall drops with more people regardless of whether it's 1 pool or individual... but man hours still gunna be high
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  6. #216
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    Greetings, everyone.

    I have a small follow-up to my previous post.

    As mentioned, we will be looking into other avenues for obtaining heavy metal plates; however, simply increasing the item drop rate is hard to do. Doing so would change some of the fundamental specifications of the content itself.

    With this in mind, we are thinking of the following adjustments:
    • When combat begins, Voidstones held by the NPC “Voidwatch Officer” will be expended.
      The Voidstones that are held by the NPC “Voidwatch Officer” will be expended 1 at a time, and this can be done until the entire stock has ran out.
      (As it has been in the past, you can still use the Voidstones in your possession to summon Voidwalkers.)
      You cannot obtain treasure when you do not possess any Voidstones, and if you are a party leader, you may not start combat without Voidstones.
    • Tripling the effect of cell items.
      The team had been looking into making it so the cell items could be held in stacks of 99; however they encountered a number of problems and discovered that this would not be possible to accomplish. Instead, we are going to increase the effect of the item and adjust it so that 1 use of the item will max out the alignment.

    With these adjustments participating in the content should be easier than before.
    The vulnerability and alignment system will remain as is, but we will follow up on this with campaigns after April and look into further adjustments to the cell items. For the moment, we would like to see how these adjustments affect game play.
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    Devin "Camate" Casadey - Community Team

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    Player Angemon's Avatar
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    First option seems very open to congestion, especially during campaign. During the previous campaign I had to fight with people to pop the Voidwalker NMs but none would like to team up. I can imagine one group sitting there holding the vortex hostage and if three groups do it (or three people soloing) then it clogs the whole zone. I know that probably isn't such a big deal on lower population servers but it only takes three people to hold up an entire NM or else you go into the claim wars.
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  8. #218
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    When you say cells will have their values tripled and reach max alignment with just 1 cell, does that just mean one cell will produce what 3 cells previously did and we still have to proc to cap lights?
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  9. #219
    Player BurnNotice's Avatar
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    Camate, I strongly believe that expanding the cells wouldn't make a world of difference. I can understand changing the drop rate would be a conflict of interest, but using 1 cells just to max out it's respective alignment won't change anything. the expanding stones via NPC and tripling the cells is more of a convenience so people don't have to run back and forth to VWs, it's not a solution to the availability of items. Has there been any other suggestions aside from this?
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  10. #220
    Player Tidis's Avatar
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    Also what happens to the KIs that boost the amount of voidstones you can carry? In essence those will be useless if these changes happen.
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