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    Player StrumerJohn's Avatar
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    The Game Is Ending... Can I get this please?

    With the game finally coming to an end, and this already being out in a newer Final Fantasy,
    can we please get same-gender marriage?


    I'm not going to go all crazy like people on the FFXIV boards, but it shouldn't take too much tweaking and I'd really appreciate it---I'm sure a whole lot of other gamers would too... I've played this game for years and I'd like to finally be able to marry someone of the same-gender on here. Silly, I know, but it'd mean a lot for my favorite game to at least have this before it truly stops getting updates and just minor bug fixes/patches.

    Thank you so much,
    - Beloved FFXI fan.
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    I second this! I need to get marry to a rich daddy and divorce em and get the Gil.
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    Last edited by BBWallace; 06-22-2015 at 03:27 AM.

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    I don't agree with the game is ending part, but I do agree we need same sex marriages.

    It would be really wonderful for my partner and I, who are both mithra, to be able to marry in game.
    I always wanted to do so, esp now that i actually have the money in the game to afford it lol.

    Come on square, FFXI team, it maybe a low priority thing for some people, but for others, it's climbing the list, as players in XIV showed.
    Please? ^^
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    Well Technically....

    The games not really coming to an end but it is for all console modes of play for this game... What my plans are is to continue playing ffxi after final major updates is to play old content, quests, even if any missions remain do them and other type of past content to clutch-er->catch it all up even it meagerly a very slow process after that point and I yet have two character's jobs to level, x2 still too.. Everything is being done twice and would be even more if i had more then just 2 characters that I could afford without much a real job still lol

    One thing i'm glad there finally touching up on this month is a few very old first game days content-er-> quests this month, finally maybe i'll be able to complete them solo, i hope... even call trusts into them and have it count it as part of the party..
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    (Yo-Sim-Mit-Tea is the correct pronunciation. It is how its spoken, folks.) Come over & visit awhile to many posted changes to the life of Vana'dial. You can find past posts found by a link, pops up with Char name highlighted, thanks!
    I'm Wishing to see the Greatness in all players suggesting changes to ffxi ahead, here's to the Future of FFXI, Cheers Mate!!.

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    Player Stompa's Avatar
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    I agree that you should be able to marry the person you love regardless of anything. However I do understand why FFXI was hetero-based. It is set in a medieval era, and in those days marriage meant procreation, that is all it was. Marriage was used to control baby-manufacture lol, to keep it in some kind of orderly fashion. So it was historically accurate that FFXI was based on this original true form of marriage. But I think love is more important than historical accuracy, and give you a Like for your OP. Also of course a lot of mithra are guys, so a mithra-mithra marriage would allow them to marry their RL wives/Gfs.
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    Last edited by Stompa; 06-24-2015 at 12:40 AM. Reason: Brevity.

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    Why do social justice warriors feel the need to push their agenda everywhere? You don't see Christians or Muslims crying they want Jesus and mohammod added as alternative in game religions to the worship of altana... Why can't you just let it go? Its not important. Stop trying to bring your real world problems into the games people play to escape from those things.
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    Player BBWallace's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by kaerin View Post
    Why do social justice warriors feel the need to push their agenda everywhere? You don't see Christians or Muslims crying they want Jesus and mohammod added as alternative in game religions to the worship of altana... Why can't you just let it go? Its not important. Stop trying to bring your real world problems into the games people play to escape from those things.
    What the hell are you talking about? He asked for a simple request politely. No need to bring your bitter self up in here. And obviously other people agreed with this sediment.
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    Player Stompa's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by kaerin View Post
    Why do social justice warriors feel the need to push their agenda everywhere? You don't see Christians or Muslims crying they want Jesus and mohammod added as alternative in game religions to the worship of altana... Why can't you just let it go? Its not important. Stop trying to bring your real world problems into the games people play to escape from those things.
    Its not about the name of deities or prophets, or even religion at all. It is not about social justice warriors. It is just about love, and the simple scientific fact that boys fall in love with boys, and girls fall in love with girls. It is both natural and scientific. There's no getting around the basic reality of it.

    I would also say that I play videogames for a lot of reasons, but escaping from a world with gay people in it, is certainly not one of the reasons. It is possible to be happy in the real world, and be happy in videogames, and no escaping involved anywhere.

    You should also know that the reason 'social justice warriors' exist at all, is because a large number of gay people have been killed by bigots, or driven to suicide, just for being in love with a same-gender person. You don't have to be a social activist to feel sorrowful about this. The whole drive of protecting LGBT rights online, and in videogames, is a response to centuries of persecution and slayings.

    As I said before, I see why FFXI had normal traditional marriage only, as it is a medieval setting. So it makes sense from a historical perspective. But at the same time it is a videogame with paying customers, and a business model where *all customers have equal rights* is just the basic default setting for most successful business models. Excluding some of your customers just because of who they love, is business sense Failga IV.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stompa View Post
    Its not about the name of deities or prophets, or even religion at all. It is not about social justice warriors. It is just about love, and the simple scientific fact that boys fall in love with boys, and girls fall in love with girls. It is both natural and scientific. There's no getting around the basic reality of it.

    I would also say that I play videogames for a lot of reasons, but escaping from a world with gay people in it, is certainly not one of the reasons. It is possible to be happy in the real world, and be happy in videogames, and no escaping involved anywhere.

    You should also know that the reason 'social justice warriors' exist at all, is because a large number of gay people have been killed by bigots, or driven to suicide, just for being in love with a same-gender person. You don't have to be a social activist to feel sorrowful about this. The whole drive of protecting LGBT rights online, and in videogames, is a response to centuries of persecution and slayings.

    As I said before, I see why FFXI had normal traditional marriage only, as it is a medieval setting. So it makes sense from a historical perspective. But at the same time it is a videogame with paying customers, and a business model where *all customers have equal rights* is just the basic default setting for most successful business models. Excluding some of your customers just because of who they love, is business sense Failga IV.
    Square is a Japanese company and here is the law in Japan
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LGBT_rights_in_Japan
    with just this line
    "As of 2000, sexual orientation is not protected by national civil rights laws, which means that LGBT Japanese have no legal recourse when they face such discrimination in such areas as employment, education, housing, health care, and banking."
    LGBT's have no protection in Japan so SE has no requirements to do any thing about it thay can do anything thay want no mater what you want(when it comes to LGBT)
    also in Japan LGBT is not discussed in public

    not to mention there are countries that have outright outlawed being LGBT and if Square wants to keep selling things in thoes countries thay have to keep it out of there products
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    Player Stompa's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by SMD111 View Post
    Square is a Japanese company and here is the law in Japan
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LGBT_rights_in_Japan
    with just this line
    "As of 2000, sexual orientation is not protected by national civil rights laws, which means that LGBT Japanese have no legal recourse when they face such discrimination in such areas as employment, education, housing, health care, and banking."
    LGBT's have no protection in Japan so SE has no requirements to do any thing about it thay can do anything thay want no mater what you want(when it comes to LGBT)
    also in Japan LGBT is not discussed in public

    not to mention there are countries that have outright outlawed being LGBT and if Square wants to keep selling things in thoes countries thay have to keep it out of there products
    Many parts of Asia that have traditional conservative politics, are also countries that traditionally believe in privacy, and what goes on in your personal life is your business. The laws are focused on stopping public indecency, and especially pornography. Private life is traditonally kept private.

    There is a difference between the political or religious culture which states that such acts are not tolerated in society, and the act of two tarutaru boys exchanging rings in a virtual wedding. This is not the same as gambling laws, which govern online gambling and clashed with the mogbonanza. There is no actual law that says two tarutaru boys can not attend a virtual wedding.

    I'm not LGBT, so I don't have a horse in this race at all. And SE will do whatever they feel most comfortable with. I was just saying that my own view is that if two taru boys want to marry in game, I don't see how it hurts anyone.
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