Request. Please allow trust in abbysea

[Cailae]

Players that can't progress will just quit, the community just is not there anymore. In the past everyone helped everyone else because nobody was above needing help, that is no longer the case. FFXI is not what it was for 2 reasons, decimated dev team and budget (which was never fixed) due to the mass amount of talent drain and money going into XIV development before it was released and massive player loss due to that and a similar FF based MMO title being released. It's the same idiotic idea as Blizzard making WoW 2, they would destroy WoW in the process while taking a gamble on the new title, thankfully they aren't as dense as Square.

Square gambled that we would play both games and they would double their money, in the most part they were wrong.

Not allowing trusts into Aby or Dyna won't make the game better for you, the players that are self sufficent won't group up with others and the players that can't do these things will simply quit. You can't shoehorn a community into a game that no longer has one, nor can you bank on those players sticking with the game anymore.

FFXI servers are deserted, Square refuse to do incredibly needed server merges because they fear the negative PR and refusing to accept that their original idea for running XI and XIV with their players paying for both titles didn't work. Players aren't playing both games, they cannibalized their own customers from paying them a monthly sub for one game and got them to pay a monthly sub on another.

@Zeargi

Thanks but this wasn't about me asking for help personally, it was about a discussion of the state of the game and why things are needed.

This thread and post hit pretty close to home for me. I played XI up untill 1.23 of XIV when some friend convinced me to try that. I had a lot of fun, I had a network of people that could get things done had the nice Atmas, an Ochain, and a bunch of useful gear for abyssea. When FFXIV went down before 2.0 myself and some friends from XIV started playing again, many from scratch. We had an alright time, but it was also the first time I experienced the "Community." My friends that had played during abyssea were gone. I had a gaggle of new recruits with nothing. So I did what many suggest here. I asked for help. I asked for help on several forums, on several sites. You know what my responses were? It's not that hard, do it yourself. Why should we help a bunch of people that just abandoned the game and probably will again. You can duo it if you just do x y z. All the same stuff I see in here. I learned then in that moment that asking for help will NOT yield appreciable results in this game. If you cannot do it yourself, or are not on a specific job, you will not get it done.

I came back to XI because XIV has lost meaning to me. They are in a loop of content that punishes you for working at the beginning of the cycel and rewards you for waiting until the end. I wanted to give XI one last real shot because I always loved the game. I am once again finding myself with a community that says it's easy if you do just... But I am attempting to do just. I couldn't find a LS or a group that would allow me to do Delve, so I took the Alexandrite I was saving for my Kenkonken and sold it to get a delve win. I've been selling off my Dynamis curency to try and get JSE weapons. It's a long road with road blocks from other players constantly thrown up. I want to enjoy this game, and for the most part the only time I get to enjoy it seems to be by myself.

Letting people use trust in Abyssea would just ease off the noose on players trying to break into the content. I fail to see the problem. The more stuff players can solo, the more likely they are to endure through the extremely insulated community of this game until they finally meet the right people or have that breakthrough into doing the content they want.

[Vold]

This thread and post hit pretty close to home for me. I played XI up untill 1.23 of XIV when some friend convinced me to try that. I had a lot of fun, I had a network of people that could get things done had the nice Atmas, an Ochain, and a bunch of useful gear for abyssea. When FFXIV went down before 2.0 myself and some friends from XIV started playing again, many from scratch. We had an alright time, but it was also the first time I experienced the "Community." My friends that had played during abyssea were gone. I had a gaggle of new recruits with nothing. So I did what many suggest here. I asked for help. I asked for help on several forums, on several sites. You know what my responses were? It's not that hard, do it yourself. Why should we help a bunch of people that just abandoned the game and probably will again. You can duo it if you just do x y z. All the same stuff I see in here. I learned then in that moment that asking for help will NOT yield appreciable results in this game. If you cannot do it yourself, or are not on a specific job, you will not get it done.

I came back to XI because XIV has lost meaning to me. They are in a loop of content that punishes you for working at the beginning of the cycel and rewards you for waiting until the end. I wanted to give XI one last real shot because I always loved the game. I am once again finding myself with a community that says it's easy if you do just... But I am attempting to do just. I couldn't find a LS or a group that would allow me to do Delve, so I took the Alexandrite I was saving for my Kenkonken and sold it to get a delve win. I've been selling off my Dynamis curency to try and get JSE weapons. It's a long road with road blocks from other players constantly thrown up. I want to enjoy this game, and for the most part the only time I get to enjoy it seems to be by myself.

Letting people use trust in Abyssea would just ease off the noose on players trying to break into the content. I fail to see the problem. The more stuff players can solo, the more likely they are to endure through the extremely insulated community of this game until they finally meet the right people or have that breakthrough into doing the content they want.

People are definitely very VERY protective of their own time and space in the world. It's hard for them to sacrifice their time for essentially nothing in return, and those that do aren't necessarily helpful, they might just want to show off their strength to others or themselves on older content. It's hard to be a helpful person. It's possible but it's hard, and that difficulty is multiplied in the virtual world. Even with my offer previously in this thread, I only offered it because I know I can steamroll that content. If we were talking 2010 or 11 or whenever abyssea released, I would not be so quick to help because that content was a bitch back then even with full atma help. To bottom line it: I don't want to make the effort of hours spent to be wasted, meaning we don't succeed and lose and it's a drag on everyone involved.

This is the curse for anyone joining a MMORPG late and said MMORPG isn't casual friendly. The ONLY reason it seems better earlier in the game's lifespan when "it had community that cared" is because people needed the content back then and there's a lot more players to amplify that. When you get to where FFXI is at it is almost a lost cause if not a sure lost cause to try to start this late into the game. It's really easy if you're at the top. Everyone needs everything new done at the top. But at the bottom, playing catch up will suck for the rest of FFXI's days. It's not because people suck. It's because their willingness to help is less noticeable and harder to find because there are less of them around.

[Camate]

Hello,

Currently the development team is prioritizing the use of alter egos for content related to the acquisition requirements for other alter egos, so they do not have any plans at the moment to address alter ego use in Abyssea or Dynamis. However, there is a possibility that they may look into this later, but they expect it will not be for quite some time.

[Lordkyron]

TY for the info.

tbh i'm enjoying my time, with my new char , leveling in old camps with alter egos, and chatting with the ls.
Using trust in abyssea will be a cherry on the nice cake called FFXI

[Glamdring]

why would you want trust in Dynamis? you have to dumb down your gear solo on every job just to keep the mob alive long enough to proc as it is. I guess maybe ulmia, sakura and moogle, anything else and the mob is dead before you can unlock any goodies for the drop list.

[Glamdring]

This thread and post hit pretty close to home for me. I played XI up untill 1.23 of XIV when some friend convinced me to try that. I had a lot of fun, I had a network of people that could get things done had the nice Atmas, an Ochain, and a bunch of useful gear for abyssea. When FFXIV went down before 2.0 myself and some friends from XIV started playing again, many from scratch. We had an alright time, but it was also the first time I experienced the "Community." My friends that had played during abyssea were gone. I had a gaggle of new recruits with nothing. So I did what many suggest here. I asked for help. I asked for help on several forums, on several sites. You know what my responses were? It's not that hard, do it yourself. Why should we help a bunch of people that just abandoned the game and probably will again. You can duo it if you just do x y z. All the same stuff I see in here. I learned then in that moment that asking for help will NOT yield appreciable results in this game. If you cannot do it yourself, or are not on a specific job, you will not get it done.

I came back to XI because XIV has lost meaning to me. They are in a loop of content that punishes you for working at the beginning of the cycel and rewards you for waiting until the end. I wanted to give XI one last real shot because I always loved the game. I am once again finding myself with a community that says it's easy if you do just... But I am attempting to do just. I couldn't find a LS or a group that would allow me to do Delve, so I took the Alexandrite I was saving for my Kenkonken and sold it to get a delve win. I've been selling off my Dynamis curency to try and get JSE weapons. It's a long road with road blocks from other players constantly thrown up. I want to enjoy this game, and for the most part the only time I get to enjoy it seems to be by myself.

Letting people use trust in Abyssea would just ease off the noose on players trying to break into the content. I fail to see the problem. The more stuff players can solo, the more likely they are to endure through the extremely insulated community of this game until they finally meet the right people or have that breakthrough into doing the content they want.

you have a point, telling people to dual-box as an answer to getting things done is like telling them to get a yeast infection to save on baking costs. It's not just the 2nd fee, it's the need for a second device, @ another $several hundred at least. a declining game is NOT worth the cost of buying another console/computer-especially since newer hardware has issues running the antiquated software, especially with video driver compatibility issues-and buying a computer using 2002 tech and operating systems is almost impossible-at least in the US.

[Malthar]

Glamdring, I just took a closer look at your tag picture and realized the man is showing his privates! Cover that up, man!

[Olor]

why would you want trust in Dynamis? you have to dumb down your gear solo on every job just to keep the mob alive long enough to proc as it is. I guess maybe ulmia, sakura and moogle, anything else and the mob is dead before you can unlock any goodies for the drop list.

yes, please no trusts in dynamis, it is super easy to solo as is, all trusts would do is make it so folks who don't know how to proc slaughter everything and make the rest of us wait on repops...

Abyssea... idc what happens in abyssea. I think a better solution to make it easier to get atmas though would be to up the chance for atmas dropping to 50%+ without red proc.

[Glamdring]

lol, blame Michaelangelo, I had nothing to do with it

but hey, if they can put it in a church it passes muster for me

[Kraggy]

yes, please no trusts in dynamis, it is super easy to solo as is, all trusts would do is make it so folks who don't know how to proc slaughter everything and make the rest of us wait on repops...

Because only FFXI 'pros' should be in Dynamis, newbies keep out!

Amirite?