Let's Make a Deal, SE!

[Rubicant82]

Greetings,

When it comes to adjustments that extend the effect duration of buffs, we need to look into this very carefully because blue mages have access to Diffusion, and there is a concern that the support capability may become too powerful for short battles.

Deal part two: Modify Diffusion to no longer be "apply this buff to party members" but "adds 20% duration per merit of next blue made buff".
There problem solved, and then BLU would get a perpetuation like ability on a 10m timer or whatever it is. problem solved.

[Olor]

Greetings,

When it comes to adjustments that extend the effect duration of buffs, we need to look into this very carefully because blue mages have access to Diffusion, and there is a concern that the support capability may become too powerful for short battles.

However, as blue mages need to auto-attack and perform other physical attacks, we understand that they are losing out on damage when they need to reapply buffs, especially in the current times where the pace of battle is speeding up. As such, we would like to make improvements.

For example, we’d like to make it so buffs can be reapplied in a shorter amount of time by adding a fast cast job trait that can be acquired through blue magic sets and we would also like to add more equipment for blue mages that has fast cast.

Please understand, no one invites us to a party to apply 1 buff. Even if the buff lasted 3 minutes, the buff is just "OK" it would still not get us invited to parties. I know the development team is very concerned BLU might become a viable job, but increasing buff duration is going to make us fall behind less, not pull ahead.

[HimuraKenshyn]

Wait wait wait how long is the recast on diffusion???? Ya'll can do better than that please....

[Olor]

Wait wait wait how long is the recast on diffusion???? Ya'll can do better than that please....

OMG BLU might be able to apply an okay buff every 10 minutes PANIC. PANIC.

Seriously - worst excuse ever. None of our buffs are gamebreaking even if they lasted the full 10 minutes. Making us set EVEN MORE SPELLS to get another tier of fast cast when that's not the main problem is not a solution. Stuff like Nature's Meditation casts pretty fast already - the JA delay still kills us.

[Mefuki]

Making us set EVEN MORE SPELLS to get another tier of fast cast when that's not the main problem is not a solution.

And, again, fat lot of good that does for us when our traits gained by spells set starts at Fast Cast .5 AND the spells we DO have to set to try(and I DO mean, try) to over come it are mostly useless. Which, according to the other BLU thread, SE seems OK with and they'd rather scrounge around for new spells to make up for the large amount of potentially useful spells already present in the game but are just broken or not "high level spells"...

[Rwolf]

I agree with Mefuki, that's a lame reason not to give Blue Mage decent duration on buffs as Mefuki stated you can just impose a duration penalty on Diffusion to balance it out. And can they stop trying to fix Blue Mage through new spells and traits. New spells and traits are awesome and all but they should be supplemental and interchangeable. Not to mention there's no space for all of this currently. They need to focus on fixing things like spell damage, MP cost, set cost, magic accuracy, and buff duration. Then it frees them up to think about what supplemental additions could be added through things like job points and new traits/spells.

I feel like this is just piling stuff on top of a rug with stuff swept under. It isn't making anything better, all it's going to do is eventually cause more issues as the game expands.

[Mirage]

Yes, Camate, it is very dangerous to let a BLU give a whole party one single buff. That's why no other jobs can do this.

[Raydeus]

Yes, Camate, it is very dangerous to let a BLU give a whole party one single buff. That's why no other jobs can do this.

Let's get nasty, and for the next update allow Blue spells to be affected by Composure.

/yepImadangerousrebel

[Tennotsukai]

Greetings,

When it comes to adjustments that extend the effect duration of buffs, we need to look into this very carefully because blue mages have access to Diffusion, and there is a concern that the support capability may become too powerful for short battles.

However, as blue mages need to auto-attack and perform other physical attacks, we understand that they are losing out on damage when they need to reapply buffs, especially in the current times where the pace of battle is speeding up. As such, we would like to make improvements.

For example, we’d like to make it so buffs can be reapplied in a shorter amount of time by adding a fast cast job trait that can be acquired through blue magic sets and we would also like to add more equipment for blue mages that has fast cast.

Thanks for the reply, Camate! Though, on to what you were saying about Blue Mages getting a fast cast job trait, we already have one. It's horrible to say the least. Just to obtain tier 1 normal fast cast we need to equip 15 points of blue magic points into our already completely filled spell slots. I know what you're thinking...that's a tier 2 fast cast for us. Unfortunately, our fast cast is equivalent to half of a rdm fast cast so we're only getting red mage's fast cast 1 by setting 15 points worth of spells.

Next, maybe we could strike a different deal on top of the previous deal. Change Diffusion back to what it was before. Every merit reducing recast time on Diffusion. That way if you guys do decide to let us merit that more it will be so much better than putting more merits into it now.

Also, it is true casting times are rather poor for most of our buff spells. Nature's Meditation is the only one exception to this, but when we are in the pace of an expedient battle and receiving buffs from bards/cors the duration of Nature's Meditation becomes an issue then.

Fast cast has not and will never fix our poor durations of our spells. Please, ask the Dev team to simply make adjustments where they absolutely have to in order for these spells to have better durations and maybe even casting times. Durations are more important to us though.

[Mitruya]

A job other than PLD, MNK, or RNG becoming overpowered? Imagine that ...
I can see it now, inviting a couple BLUs for an alliance and doing the party swap thing for our uber buffs! Well, we can dream...