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    Player Iamthatis's Avatar
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    Please Allow Partying with PCs AND Trust NPCs

    First off, I am extremely pleased with Trust NPCs. Trust NPCs along with RoE have been some of the best and most fun casual-friendly content added.


    With that being said, one feature the Trust NPC system is sorely missing is the ability to party with both PCs and Trust NPCs.


    A couple possible methods could be:


    1. Only the Party Leader can summon/control Trust NPCs with normal party dynamics (Max of 6 members either PC or Trust). This might be the easiest.

    2. PCs can only alliance with other PCs while Trusts are present. For example 3 parties consiting of 1 PC + 1-3 Trusts.


    I understand there may be technical difficulties in implementing this but any form of partying with PCs and Trust NPCs would be most welcomed! Many casual players may play with one to several regular friends. While more Trusts are always fun, it would be even better to share the experience instead of choosing between PCs or Trust NPCs.


    Thanks for taking the time to read this
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    Player Olor's Avatar
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    PLEASE. Yes. I support this wholeheartedly. Should not be penalized for playing with friends.
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    Player Deifact's Avatar
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    Alter egos have undergone the following adjustments.
    Spaces have been deleted from NPC names so that alter egos naming conventions now coincide with those of PC ones, enabling them to be used in parties that include other PCs in the future.

    From the patch notes. Is alter ego == trust NPC?
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    Player Mirage's Avatar
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    Yes, it is.

    I read that too, and it is kind of laughable at this point. This is the third major version update since they first said that they would like to enable trusts in a regular party, and the only thing they've done about it so far is remove spaces in names. This means it'll be at least four months to implement it, if we're lucky enough to actually get it in the May update. I'm not holding my breath.
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    Player Iamthatis's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Deifact View Post
    Alter egos have undergone the following adjustments.
    Spaces have been deleted from NPC names so that alter egos naming conventions now coincide with those of PC ones, enabling them to be used in parties that include other PCs in the future.

    From the patch notes. Is alter ego == trust NPC?

    I saw the name change with Trust NPCs but missed the part about allowing them to be used with PCs in the future... o.o


    Here's hoping that SE will let us party with Trusts and PCs! I'd be willing to trade half my Trust NPCs for partying with Trusts and PCs...
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    Player Ultimoore's Avatar
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    I really support this Idea. My twin Brother and I are both starting to making a return to XI thanks to Trust Magic (and Geomancer). If the ability to alliance with another player and still maintain the ability to use Alter Ego's would be great. It would allow cassual members to do things like Expaditionary Force or even some boss fights. My twin Brother and I plan on playing together and we both fully support this idea.
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    Player Mnejing's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Akihiko_Matsui View Post
    6月バージョンアップ予告
    • フェイスのパーティー対応
      他のPCとパーティーを組んだ状態で、フェイスを呼び出せるようにする予定です。
    Looks like its happening in the June update!
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    Player Tennotsukai's Avatar
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    That's some awesome news.
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    Player Mirage's Avatar
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    wow it only took them half a year

    i want to say i'm impressed but i'm not really

    good to know that it is actually going to happen though. After all this time, I had started thinking they were hoping for us to forget all about it so they wouldn't have to implement it
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    Player Mnejing's Avatar
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    Seems like there's some restriction and posts about on calling alter egos in parties, could we get some translations?

    Quote Originally Posted by Lomloon View Post
    こんばんは。
    先日トピックスでお伝えした「フェイスのパーティでの呼び出し」について、お知らせします。

    将来的にはパーティメンバーの誰でもフェイスを呼びだせる機能として
    開発中ですが、6月のバージョンアップ時点ではパーティリーダーだけが
    パーティ中にもフェイスを呼び出せるという制限をつけて公開予定です。
    (パーティの人数上限は、プレイヤーとフェイスとフェローを合わせて6人までです)

    パーティリーダーは最後に誰かを誘ってから120秒経過すると、フェイスの呼出が可能になります。

    将来的にはパーティメンバーの誰でもフェイスを呼び出せるようにする予定ですが、
    この仕組みに不具合があったため、まずは機能を限定した状態で様子を見ることとしました。
    Quote Originally Posted by Lomloon View Post
    ご質問の件、個別に回答しますね。
    • リーダーがうつるとフェイスはどうなるの?
      パーティリーダーを別のPCに変更すると、呼び出しているフェイスはすべて戻ります。

    • 交替した新リーダーはその後フェイスを呼び出せるの?
      はい、新リーダーはすぐにフェイスの呼出しが可能です。

    • その他、呼び出していたフェイスがいなくなるのはどのような時?
      まず、フェイスを呼び出している状態で他のプレイヤーをパーティに誘うと、フェイスは戻ります。
      また、パーティ編成後に「パーティ解散」や「メンバー除名」、「レベルシンク」を
      実行した場合にもフェイスは戻ります。

    まとめますと、まずプレイヤー同士でパーティを組み、その後空いた枠をフェイスで
    埋めるようにすると、スムーズにフェイスの混在したパーティができる仕組みです。
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