We need a duty finder system for ffXI.

[Glamdring]

we have content specific comments we can post, now, the number of people I ever see using those is another matter. if people used them there is a way to search by comment. but as lazy as people have gotten I doubt it will be used no matter what. also, how are you going to restrict to r/m/e/d if the system doesn't have a gear filter? you wouldn't want people who need anything from the content to be replying after all...

[Duelle]

To have a Duty Finder you first need a game with Duty-like content, which XI doesn't really have.

I think there is a lot of content that would be duty finder friendly in FFXI. Stuff like: Story Missions, Add-on Bosses, BCNM battles, Voidwatch, Salvage, Delve, Nyzul Isle, Assaults, Limbus, etc.

As far as encountering skilled players vs randoms that will cost you a run...I don't see that as being a viable argument for NOT having one....for several reasons (aside from the fact that this already happens in player generated PUGS now).

The problem here is that you have three huge obstacles: content design, job balance and role distribution.

XI has been lacking in all three for so long that it would take the devs first solving the job balance and role distribution issues then balancing the content around the new cadres of tanks, healers and DPS.

Even if you decided to align main jobs to roles, you still would have to redesign some, as 1 tank out of 22 jobs and 1 healer out of 22 jobs is not a good situation for a group matching function like Duty Finder. Then you get the arduous task of deciding who gets "sacrificed" to meet the new role distribution. Should SAM get severed from their throne as king of DPS to join PLD in the tank pool? Should RUN get the fixes it needs to become a real tank instead of being chained to the "spell tank" label? Should SCH and SMN join WHM in the healer pool? And what about hybrids like DNC, RDM, and BLU?

There's some good that could come from this; if THF is placed in the DPS category then SE has no choice but to actually fix the job so that it is competitive in damage, as systems like Duty Finder are extremely reliant on balanced performance between jobs to prevent classism. If RDM were placed in the DPS category (having some utility on the side), those of us from the melee camp can finally put the matter to rest and move on with our lives. It would also mean good things for jobs like PUP and BST for the same reasons.

The you have to balance content to be cleared by a party put together through Duty Finder. You can have encounters still require skill, timing and coordination, but you can't rely on job gimmicks.

It's a huge undertaking and one we won't ever see in this game.

[Spectreman]

Create a Duty Finder where ppl get bonuses for doing it instead of creating parties manually. That will increase the number of ppl being accepted in events even though they dont have godly gear.

[scaevola]

Nobody uses duty finder in XIV unless they're a tank or healer.

That will change. Looking for Group/Raid was a huge benefit to WoW that breathed a ton of life into the game. Even the DD classes that have to wait longer to get in at least have a rough idea of how long they'll have to wait.

[Duelle]

Create a Duty Finder where ppl get bonuses for doing it instead of creating parties manually. That will increase the number of ppl being accepted in events even though they dont have godly gear.

But as long as the performance discrepancies are notable, all you'll get is the following:

- Standard FFXI player queues for duty finder for 6-man Nyzul Isle
- Group gets filled up with a WHM, DRK, NIN, BRD
- Final member turns out to be a PUP
- Members start going "wtf a pup go queue up on a real job"
- a) If vote kick exists in DF: Members vote the PUP off the party because they'd rather not do the event than take a loljob along
- b) If vote kick does not exist in DF: Members start to leave if the PUP refuses to leave the party
- The purpose of Duty Finder is thus defeated

Looking for Group/Raid was a huge benefit to WoW that breathed a ton of life into the game. Even the DD classes that have to wait longer to get in at least have a rough idea of how long they'll have to wait.

Building on my above point, Blizzard didn't implement group finder until after most of the performance discrepancies were dealt with, including major tank adjustments (because they didn't want a repeat of stuff like "only prot paladins can tank Heroic Shattered Halls" and "only prot warriors can tank Illidan") and WotLK's Great Hybrid Revamp.

[SpankWustler]

I can't imagine how a Duty Finder would or could work in FFXI. I could see it working in events that any combination of people on any combination of jobs can complete, such as storyline missions or Skirmish, but is it really that hard to make a group for something when who and what is in the group are barely relevant to begin with?

Also, it's a safe bet that such a system would have its slots based on how FFXI "should" work rather than how FFXI actually works. Imagine a Delve group that got 1 Bard and 2 Summoners in the measly three "guys that use buffs or something, I guess" slots on top of being forced to fill two or three "tank" slots to fulfill a function that has not existed within FFXI for a very long time.

[Yousha]

I want to have Duty Finder for this FFXI so I can finish my Zilart, CoP, ToAU, WotG and now new SoA .... It hard to get party these day ... They are too much focus on dymanis, abbyssea, assault, end games run. I would glad to do this if I get these done my story. But look like I NEVER GET THIS DONE. Please ADD DUTY FINDER!!! Very important for me.

[Demon6324236]

RotZ, CoP, & ToAU can all be soloed now days. WotG I don't know about for sure, but I have to assume its possible too.

[Yousha]

RotZ, CoP, & ToAU can all be soloed now days. WotG I don't know about for sure, but I have to assume its possible too.

Ok I will check it out, ... did they change it ?

[detlef]

Ok I will check it out, ... did they change it ?

You changed. You're level 99 now and level 110+ if appropriately geared.

I do recall some of the WotG fights being possibly difficult to solo (there was some escort mission, and the one in Sarutabaruta where you have to fight waves of things come to mind).